Gundam V.S Evangelion....Any Comments?

[Spectre]

I think Gundam would win.....

[Crimson Phoenix]

Which Gundam series? Gundam Wing, Gundam SEED, Gundam SEED Destiny, Mobile Suit Gundam 0079/0080/0083, Gundam X, Gundam Z, Gundam ZZ? Which series? if you leave it open to any of them, I'd have to say that the Wing Zero from Gundam Wing would win against any Eva you want to set up for the chopping block.

[dragongundam009]

That's if it could get pass it's apt .

[shadow_alchemist92]

i think against Most gundams, evangelion would win

[BlackRose Vampiress]

i think against Most gundams, evangelion would win I totally agree...

[hunt4me]

naw, I'd go for Gundam all the way. It's soooooooo much better!!! and the characters are sooo much more...amazing looking!!!! hahahahahahaaaaa!!!! I love Gundam Wing!!! Gundam has my vote!

[Manhattan_Project_2000]

Evangelions. I don't even think it'd be fair. Even throwing out Berserker Mode, the AT Fields, Regeneration, and the Prog Knives, Evas are still 260 ft to a Gundam's 60ish.

Let's put it this way. Eva's can win against Angels, but there is no way I'd believe a Gundam could beat some of the Angels, like for example Ramiel (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Angel_%28Neon_Genesis_Evangelion%29#Ramiel), Iruel (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Angel_%28Neon_Genesis_Evangelion%29#Iruel), Leliel (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Angel_%28Neon_Genesis_Evangelion%29#Leliel), or Zeruel (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Angel_%28Neon_Genesis_Evangelion%29#Zeruel).
A Gundam against any of those would stand no chance what-so-ever.

[raziel]

Gundam all the way. eva better stick angels

[bakakame]

I'm confident that any gundam would get soundly thrashed by an EVA. Just look at what an EVA is, I don't think there needs to be much more explination than that.

[Aminity]

I don't know which ones would win, but I prefer Evangelion myself. :)

[Maya Miyazono]

Series or the mecha's in general?

Either way...Eva is more advanced.

[samuriagent]

eva's could beat down on a gundam, but gundams are just....well, cooler

[AzNTediZ]

Gundam all the way

[Manhattan_Project_2000]

You know, I figured it out, and to put it in simple terms, if the Eva were 6ft tall, the Gundam would be about 1.5 ft tall. Both are roughly humanoid, the Gundam’s admittedly are a bit more mobile, however, I think the scale factor is just too much for this fight to be fair, or even in most cases, close.

[Flaming Comet]

Evangelions Would Squish Gundams Like Bugs, Besides The Only Reason The Gundam Name Is So Popular Is That It Has Like OneHundred Differnt Versions Of It, Evangelion Has Held Its Own With Just 26 Episodes And Two Movies.......So There

[AzNTediZ]

Gundam Rulez...i wish gundams were real but considering the consequences and that our technology is nothing compared to gundam's. My favorite gundams are Deathscythe Hell Cutom and Epyon. I love Gundam wing and SEED but i missed G gundam and the first. I loved the movie Endless Waltz. I hope they continue on to the series and add more gundams. The games are worth playing if u r a fan. but i myself think there should be more control avalaible.

[Masali]

Gundam Rulez...i wish gundams were real but considering the consequences and that our technology is nothing compared to gundam's. My favorite gundams are Deathscythe Hell Cutom and Epyon. I love Gundam wing and SEED but i missed G gundam and the first. I loved the movie Endless Waltz. I hope they continue on to the series and add more gundams. The games are worth playing if u r a fan. but i myself think there should be more control avalaible.For those of you who follow the idiot's path, such as this fine example shown above I'll put it into simple terms.

http://www.animeforum.com/uploads/Hulk.jpg

VS.


http://www.animeforum.com/uploads/Bear.jpg

that's an accurate comparison on size and ferocity.

[the anime freak]

i would definatly want the gundams to win but lets take a look at the facts here the eva is much larger than a normal gundam unit and eva has such advanced fighting capabiliteis that they have at fields regenaration if you count the eva series flight if you count the eva series also such as a gundams most advanced fighting weapon is nothing more than a toy for the evas such as a beam rifle or a saber maybe a beam chain or cannon so even tho i would like for the gundams to win the odds are against them so i would have to say the eva simply because it is far more advanced

[Prons]

Oh god.

First and foremost it's worth noting that Gundam and Evangelion are two different types of robot shows. Gundam is an old school military show, Evangelion is a new school watered down hype show.

Second of all, the Evangelions rely 100% on their AT fields, they aren't very strong without them and have the umbilical cord disadvantage. For example, in Super Robot Wars, if an enemy can pierce their AT Field, they get blown away, but because most enemies can't, they can pretty much take down most enemy robots.

Third, it's worth noting that Gundams are more mobile than the Evangelions, in particular the SEED "flying around at mind blowing speeds shooting a million lasers in every direction" robots.

Of course, that's if they were to fight.

However, In terms of show quality, Gundam is infinetly better. Of course, this is lost on the fact that most people here have only seen Wing, SEED or maybe 8th.

[the anime freak]

i dissagree look at the facts the evas would utterly crush the gundams

[Char The Red Comet]

Oh god.

First and foremost it's worth noting that Gundam and Evangelion are two different types of robot shows. Gundam is an old school military show, Evangelion is a new school watered down hype show.

Second of all, the Evangelions rely 100% on their AT fields, they aren't very strong without them and have the umbilical cord disadvantage. For example, in Super Robot Wars, if an enemy can pierce their AT Field, they get blown away, but because most enemies can't, they can pretty much take down most enemy robots.

Third, it's worth noting that Gundams are more mobile than the Evangelions, in particular the SEED "flying around at mind blowing speeds shooting a million lasers in every direction" robots.

Of course, that's if they were to fight.

However, In terms of show quality, Gundam is infinetly better. Of course, this is lost on the fact that most people here have only seen Wing, SEED or maybe 8th.Yes so true I agree with you on the shows

As for the VS what about Turn A (http://www.mahq.net/mecha/gundam/turn-a/system-a-99.htm) and Turn X. (http://www.mahq.net/mecha/gundam/turn-a/concept-x-612.htm)
And woodent the Gundam Double X's twin satellite cannon (http://www.mahq.net/mecha/gundam/x/gx-9901-dx.htm) pierce the EVA's AT Field?

[Starkwynd]

Simply put, no. Gundams all around don't have the power to pierce an AT field.

I posted some data before, but it's been way too long I'm not looking for that post, if you want i can manually post it again but let me just give you the general idea, Gundam's don't stand a chance.

As for the second paragraph on Prons post, that is completely wrong. Behind the AT field (which a gundam can't get past anyway) is 16000 plates of fortified armor that, based on anecdotal evidence in the show, makes gundanium and phase shift look like cheap recycled paper. Underneith the 16000 plates of armor is a being of immense power (which is actually being RESTRAINED by the armor) that is capeable of regenerating itself if damaged. Going another step foreward, Unit 1 has an S2 engine, which means no umbilicle cord to cut since it has an infinate power supply right there.

With the exception of a few, Gundams are conventional weapons, designed to fight OTHER conventional weapons, not a super-being (EVA).

[Red Phantoms]

Where the fight going on? In colony, earth or space? In the space battle and colony battle Im sure that gundam will. But in the earth the big guy like GPO3 Dendrobium will become easy prey for smaller and more agille Evanglion. or maybe the Gundam Mk 2 wich spealize in space battle cannot match Evanglion close range attack so I vote for Evanglion:cool:

[NecroGate]

Gundam for me

[Prons]

i dissagree look at the facts the evas would utterly crush the gundamsOkay, let us look at the facts.

Evas can't fly, save for the MP evas. This is an advantage when you consider that the Gundams in pretty much every universe are pretty dang mobile, they really do get around.

Meanwhile, Evangelions are pretty much close combat, save for a few weapons, the Lance of Longinus (Spelling) which is disadvantaged by the fact that it's too slow. If anything, the machine guns would have a chance to hit them.

But then we have a technology gap where a majority of Gundams, save for a few early examples like the Zaku II, they all pretty much use lasers. Well, it's a known fact lasers = fast. Meanwhile, the Evangelions use machine guns because Eva is a more "Modern Day" show than Gundam, which is a more "Future-Age" show.

So the Evas don't have too much going in the way of offenser, when you consider that the Gundam's could fly around in the sky all day and wait for
the Evas to run out of ammo, then they'd be down to the progressive knives.


However, the Evangelions have A.T fields, so they have a pretty solid defense, unless the Gundam can crack it. But it's worth noting that the A.T. Field like all plot devices can be as strong or as weak as the scene needs be. If the story demmands it, it can be pierced by the Lance of Longinus, mind you.

And with that said, you can't win a fight with just defense.

While we're on the subject, it's worth noting that Evangelions need umbilical cords, quite frankly if a Gundam were to snap it\the power source, the Eva would be screwed.

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As for the second paragraph on Prons post, that is completely wrong. Behind the AT field (which a gundam can't get past anyway) is 16000 plates of fortified armor that, based on anecdotal evidence in the show, makes gundanium and phase shift look like cheap recycled paper. Underneith the 16000 plates of armor is a being of immense power (which is actually being RESTRAINED by the armor) that is capeable of regenerating itself if damaged. Going another step foreward, Unit 1 has an S2 engine, which means no umbilicle cord to cut since it has an infinate power supply right there.

Ah! Here's where the plot device I mentioned starts happening.

In the End of Evangelion when the head of Asuka's unit gets pirced with the L.o.L, infact, we see Eva armor get screwed up a lot in the show.

So if they were to fight, at the very end there is one result: Space Runaway Ideon flying in ontop the Battleship Yamato with the universe's biggest beer keg.

[Kajora]

Evangelion and Gundam are both pretty good so I would have to say a tie between them

[Manhattan_Project_2000]

Okay, let us look at the facts.

Evas can't fly, save for the MP evas. This is an advantage when you consider that the Gundams in pretty much every universe are pretty dang mobile, they really do get around.
Doesn't matter, The Gundams (throwing out super weapons) don't have the ability to pierce the AT. It comes down to Endurance (Eva pilots are fed intravenously, and don't strictly need Fuel), an area an Eva has an edge in.
Meanwhile, Evangelions are pretty much close combat, save for a few weapons, the Lance of Longinus (Spelling) which is disadvantaged by the fact that it's too slow. If anything, the machine guns would have a chance to hit them.
Eva does still have the Machine Guns, and since the bullets themselves are about an eighth of the size of the Gundams the damage would be considerable. Also, If I wasn't throwing out super weapons; the N2 Mine would utterly destroy a Gundam, but leave the Eva only lightly damaged. Likewise, I mention the F-Type Equipment (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neon_Genesis_Evangelion_glossary#F-type_Equipment) which is generally considered Canon.But then we have a technology gap where a majority of Gundams, save for a few early examples like the Zaku II, they all pretty much use lasers. Well, it's a known fact lasers = fast. Meanwhile, the Evangelions use machine guns because Eva is a more "Modern Day" show than Gundam, which is a more "Future-Age" show.
It doesn't really matter. Even the larger lasers on Mobile Suit's are fairly small when you figure scale in. Where as, even conventional weapons at Eva scale would be near one hit kills.
So the Evas don't have too much going in the way of offenser, when you consider that the Gundam's could fly around in the sky all day and wait for
the Evas to run out of ammo, then they'd be down to the progressive knives.
Gundam's still need to refuel, and most Mobile Suits in Gundam do not so much fly as they are equipped with jump jets. Save for a few suits, the amount of rocket fuel they carry is fairly limited. Maybe they could stay up... 10 minutes. Not 10 hours.
However, the Evangelions have A.T fields, so they have a pretty solid defense, unless the Gundam can crack it. But it's worth noting that the A.T. Field like all plot devices can be as strong or as weak as the scene needs be. If the story demmands it, it can be pierced by the Lance of Longinus, mind you.
The AT field's strength is based entirely on Sync Ratio. The Lance can piece it, sure, but it hardly matters in this comparison. We’re comparing the two in a fight, not your opinion on the series itself. Joe Pesci knows, Masali hates all non-Gendo parts of NGE, and even he admits that Evas have an decided advantage over Gundams.
And with that said, you can't win a fight with just defense.

"So it is said that good warriors take a stand on ground where they cannot lose, and do not overlook conditions that make an enemy prone to defeat" - Master Sun

The non-Mass Produced Eva's have plenty of offensive capability, just no flight ability and lesser ranged weapons coupled with an exceedingly impressive defense system. The logical way the battle would be fought dictates that the Evangelion waits for vulnerability in the Gundam. Failing that an Eva, assuming it's protecting its umbilical cord has much greater endurance then a Gundam, and therefore would prevail. The Gundam would have to put near constent pressure on the Eva, and pray to Joe Pesci it has a cord that it can't defend and can't replace.
While we're on the subject, it's worth noting that Evangelions need umbilical cords, quite frankly if a Gundam were to snap it\the power source, the Eva would be screwed. Yeah. If you throw out berserker mode, and the S2 engine. Even then, being a fixed point, the cord isn’t especially hard to defend, and since, I assume, this theoretical battle occurs in Tokyo 3, there are plenty more cords where that came from.

[Char The Red Comet]

Doesn't matter, The Gundams (throwing out super weapons) don't have the ability to pierce the AT. It comes down to Endurance (Eva pilots are fed intravenously, and don't strictly need Fuel), an area an Eva has an edge in.
Watch this video clip
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FTjlRXCRjZk

That is the Gundam X(from After War Gundam X) and its satellite cannon that's a super weapons that can destroy an entire space colony...


Ok then double that and you have the Gundam Double X's twin satellite cannon (http://www.mahq.net/mecha/gundam/x/gx-9901-dx.htm) In my opinion that's when the AT-field reaches it's limit.

[snakevenom619]

I think Gundum zero's cannon would pirce the A.T. field with one shot. Plus the eva pilots can feel what happens to the eva that leaves them at a disavantage.

[Bitteryellowrose]

Hard by i'll go with GGGGGGGG!

[Manhattan_Project_2000]

Watch this video clip
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FTjlRXCRjZk

That is the Gundam X(from After War Gundam X) and its satellite cannon that's a super weapons that can destroy an entire space colony...


Ok then double that and you have the Gundam Double X's twin satellite cannon (http://www.mahq.net/mecha/gundam/x/gx-9901-dx.htm) In my opinion that's when the AT-field reaches it's limit.

If Super weapons do count, then I cite the F-Type Equipment again, which includes among a great deal other things, 2 N2 Mine Cruise Missiles. Theoretically, you could stick F-Type equipment on a Mass Produced Eva and then the fight wouldn’t even be close to being fair. Gundanium can’t take a direct nuke. They'd trade shots; Eva would be damaged but would regenerate. Gundam wouldn’t.

Also, if I want to go way into super weapondom, as seen in EoE Rei and Unit 01 can… …Create an anti-AT field capable of reducing anyone to LCL.

[Starkwynd]

Ok, let's use some numbers now. In order to pierce an Angel's AT field (Ramiel in this example) the power grid for all of japan had to be routed to a single shot. Now let's compare that to the power output of weapons in gundam universes, which rarely even exceed 1MW. Ask yourself rationally, can 1 mobile suit, heck can 1 battleship produce enough power? No, it can't. NOTHING gundams have is strong enough to break the field, let alone kill the EVA.

BTW, shooting "a million lasers in every direction" is pretty much pointless when there's only 1 target....

An EVA's AT field can also be manipulated into a weapon in itself, meaning that the EVA doesn't have to be "armed" with anything.

As for the Lance, it relates more to the actual story of EVA, it's a referance to the spear that the roman soldier Loginus used to stab Jesus on the cross to make sure he was dead.

[Manhattan_Project_2000]

Ok, let's use some numbers now. In order to pierce an Angel's AT field (Ramiel in this example) the power grid for all of japan had to be routed to a single shot. Now let's compare that to the power output of weapons in gundam universes, which rarely even exceed 1MW. Ask yourself rationally, can 1 mobile suit, heck can 1 battleship produce enough power? No, it can't. NOTHING gundams have is strong enough to break the field, let alone kill the EVA.
I agree... to a certain point. There's no way the power of a Gundams reactor could compare to the amount of power the Positron Cannon consumes. But you do have to figure in weapon refinement and such. Still, if you want to get down to it, there's no way any of the Gundam Super Weapons could operate the way they do on their meager reactors... However, we’re talking a 60ft humanoid tank battling a 260ft beast of destruction, so let’s throw reality out the window.

I think the Gundam-Super-Lasers argument comes down to this. The amount of damage they do is pretty decent. But there's no way the Damage can compare to stopping Sahaquiel (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Angel_%28Neon_Genesis_Evangelion%29#Sahaquiel) via AT fields. Mind, there's 3 AT fields involved, but Shinji is no where near his peak Sync ratio, and Asaka's presence is pretty negligible. Gundam Super Laser X might very well pierce the AT if it's a well aimed shot, but it wouldn't be a one hit kill. However, even a pretty decent miss with a N2 Mine would maim or kill any Gundam you care to name.

[Char The Red Comet]

If Super weapons do count, then I cite the F-Type Equipment again, which includes among a great deal other things, 2 N2 Mine Cruise Missiles. Theoretically, you could stick F-Type equipment on a Mass Produced Eva and then the fight wouldn’t even be close to being fair. Gundanium can’t take a direct nuke. They'd trade shots; Eva would be damaged but would regenerate. Gundam wouldn’t.

So you agree that DX's twin satellite cannon can pierce the EVA's AT Field?Yes ore No

Secon Turn A (http://www.mahq.net/mecha/gundam/turn-a/system-a-99.htm) and Turn X (http://www.mahq.net/mecha/gundam/turn-a/concept-x-612.htm) can take any number of direct nuclear attacks

The Turn A's main propulsion was provided by an I-field Beam Drive System, which left the suit completely hollow and allowed it to be filled with extra armaments and rocket thrusters. Standard armament consisted of two beam sabers and a beam rifle. The Turn A was even equipped with an anti-nuclear weapon barrier protecing it from nuclear weapons.And DX remained intact after being hit by an explosion made by three colliding Satellite Cannon shots(VERY BIG BOOM!!!), that has to be pretty good armor.

Also, if I want to go way into super weapondom, as seen in EoE Rei and Unit 01 can… …Create an anti-AT field capable of reducing anyone to LCL. It takes a very long time to start and perform instrumentation (Spelling),time the DX can use to charge the twin satellite cannon to the limit.

[Manhattan_Project_2000]

So you agree that DX's twin satellite cannon can pierce the EVA's AT Field?Yes ore No
It would have to be a very direct hit, with the Eva not in berserker mode. In that case, some of the energy would pierce. Would it be instant kill? No.

Secon Turn A (http://www.mahq.net/mecha/gundam/turn-a/system-a-99.htm) and Turn X (http://www.mahq.net/mecha/gundam/turn-a/concept-x-612.htm) can take any number of direct nuclear attacks

And DX remained intact after being hit by an explosion made by three colliding Satellite Cannon shots(VERY BIG BOOM!!!), that has to be pretty good armor.

I'm not sure if N2 mines would be affected by that barrier or not. They aren't traditional nuclear armaments. It isn't even stated how they work, other then they are Nuke-like in strength, minus the radiation. Some fans speculate that they are a Subatomic particle weapon, based on the fact production notes refer to them as P-bombs. As for the Armor on the Gundams, they still couldn't stop a Prog knife, which cuts at the molecular level.

It takes a very long time to start and perform instrumentation (Spelling),time the DX can use to charge the twin satellite cannon to the limit.
True, but I'd like to think it could be used as a limited-scale weapon in a much smaller timescale. Arael, Armisael, and quite possibly Tabris use AT fields to similar effect.

[Red Phantoms]

I still on my opinion Eva only good at ground battle not a space like most of the gundam. just like you know that Ayanami are give her live only for attacking one target in space. but I will consider only if Eva are developeing new technology for fly and penetration of zero gravity. Im sure if Gundam are attacking at once Eva can defend they base well. Even they bombarding their base with mega cannon. but Eva cannot attack the Gundam fort like Axis (Zeon Fort). So in tactical battle it will never end and useless.:unsure:

[White Wolf Of Solomon]

is it strictly Gundam vs Eva?or can they use other things?Eva's cant fight in space(when they engaged that angel it was only in the upper atmosphere)like red phantoms said the eva's could not atack a space colony or a space fortress like solomon,if the gundams wanted to they could do a colony drop like zeon did,or multiple colony drops,none of that makes sense of course because these took place in different world's

[snakevenom619]

u asked for me here i am

[zan]

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[Cleric Juan Ortiz]

:nono: The outcome of such a battle depends very much on the circumstances in which it develops...


:closedeye I mean, both EVA and Gundam are magnificent pieces of engineering (genetic and industrial). They're well armed, they both have great physical capacities, and in their Animes, they're represented as almost unbeatable foes (Taking as examples EVA 01 and Gundam 00).


But, despite their technological advancement, they all have "ONE DISADVANTAGE", that makes a battle's result rather unpredictable: HUMAN PILOTS!!!:banghead:

In a battle situation, the pilots' feelings would block their response capacity (e.g.: Ikari Shinji on board EVA 01), and would in turn signify an obstacle... In the case of emotional breakdown, I think Gundam Epyon or EVA 01 in Berseker mode would be the best weapons each "side" could choose...


Now, using the technology as a reference point...


Previous posts mentioned the case of the EVAs' and the Gundams' cannons...


:closedeye Well, Gundams can easily destroy a space colony, and devastate extense zones of Earth's surface in a single shot of their cannons, but EVAs can also pierce through powerful AT fields with the experimental positron cannon (e.g.: Angel Ramiel's field), and possibly cause severe damage to other kinds of structures...


You also mentioned the armour...


Not too much to say... Gundams obviously have a very resistant armour (which, by the way, makes them slow on land); while EVAs have a polymer armour (apparently, some weird plastic...:confused: [any aclaratory note is welcome]), which allows them to move relatively fast on ground.

And talking of the weight-movement subject...

Evangelions, as I said above, have a grat moveability on land; opposite to the case of the Gundams... However, Gundams have the ability of flight and deep space maneuvers... The only exception for a flying EVA, is the case of the EVA MPs; and, of course, the EVA 01 in End of Evangelion, where it apparently breaks its "restrains" and develops twelve functional (yet of ghostly appearance) wings.

In general, if the Gundam lifts-off, an average EVA (e.g.: 00, 02, 03, 04, MPs) would be toast.


:ooh: Be warned that EVA 01 is NOT an average Evangelion.:p

To stop boring you with my dumb speech, I'll say that I must agree with Red Phantoms:
"...tactical battle [it] will never end and (would be) useless."

[viewtyjoe]

The fact that we insist on arguing when those who are knowledgable have already shown the facts to you all makes me sad. I'm not going to say who would win in a fight, since that would only spur more posting. However, I have my two cents to add on the discussion.

DIFFERENT PHYSICS SYSTEMS

Gundams and EVAs both operate under entirely different systems of physics which I do not believe can be reconciled to form one universal mecha physics system.

Oh, and for all you people that mention the space battles: how do those MS's get out into space? There aren't that many mecha that are capable of exiting the atmosphere under their own power.

[lucky leprachaun]

they are good but eva is wayyyy slow.

[narunaru]

what do you mean? like, in a fight, or which one you like more?

in a fight, of course gundam would blow eva out of the water.

but, in the second case, eva is much more interesting to watch.

[qwail]

yeah evas a better series to watch but im not sure who would win in a fight both sides have pros and cons.
my opinion it would depend on the pilots

[Howling Star]

Gundam is the best.

[loko inuyasha]

gundam all the way yo

[Raven-X]

This fight is like Terminator vs. Robo Cop.
The Evas have the technological advantage, excluding flight from my knowledge. But if the pilot has anything to do with it, I think Heero Yuy and his gundam stand a chance, although it might still be almost impossible to win against an eva.
I do understand that the at field is super strong, but where there's a will, there's a way...
If it's just a duel between any gundam and eva, I go with the eva however.

[White Wolf Of Solomon]

Watch this video clip
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FTjlRXCRjZk

That is the Gundam X(from After War Gundam X) and its satellite cannon that's a super weapons that can destroy an entire space colony...


Ok then double that and you have the Gundam Double X's twin satellite cannon (http://www.mahq.net/mecha/gundam/x/gx-9901-dx.htm) In my opinion that's when the AT-field reaches it's limit.also tallgeeseIII blew LO2 to dust,and i agree the AT-field WOULD reach its limit

[FLCLpsycho]

Doesn't matter, The Gundams (throwing out super weapons) don't have the ability to pierce the AT. It comes down to Endurance (Eva pilots are fed intravenously, and don't strictly need Fuel), an area an Eva has an edge in.

Eva does still have the Machine Guns, and since the bullets themselves are about an eighth of the size of the Gundams the damage would be considerable. Also, If I wasn't throwing out super weapons; the N2 Mine would utterly destroy a Gundam, but leave the Eva only lightly damaged. Likewise, I mention the F-Type Equipment (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neon_Genesis_Evangelion_glossary#F-type_Equipment) which is generally considered Canon.
It doesn't really matter. Even the larger lasers on Mobile Suit's are fairly small when you figure scale in. Where as, even conventional weapons at Eva scale would be near one hit kills.

Gundam's still need to refuel, and most Mobile Suits in Gundam do not so much fly as they are equipped with jump jets. Save for a few suits, the amount of rocket fuel they carry is fairly limited. Maybe they could stay up... 10 minutes. Not 10 hours.

The AT field's strength is based entirely on Sync Ratio. The Lance can piece it, sure, but it hardly matters in this comparison. We’re comparing the two in a fight, not your opinion on the series itself. Joe Pesci knows, Masali hates all non-Gendo parts of NGE, and even he admits that Evas have an decided advantage over Gundams.

"So it is said that good warriors take a stand on ground where they cannot lose, and do not overlook conditions that make an enemy prone to defeat" - Master Sun

The non-Mass Produced Eva's have plenty of offensive capability, just no flight ability and lesser ranged weapons coupled with an exceedingly impressive defense system. The logical way the battle would be fought dictates that the Evangelion waits for vulnerability in the Gundam. Failing that an Eva, assuming it's protecting its umbilical cord has much greater endurance then a Gundam, and therefore would prevail. The Gundam would have to put near constent pressure on the Eva, and pray to Joe Pesci it has a cord that it can't defend and can't replace.
Yeah. If you throw out berserker mode, and the S2 engine. Even then, being a fixed point, the cord isn’t especially hard to defend, and since, I assume, this theoretical battle occurs in Tokyo 3, there are plenty more cords where that came from.

Wow! Youve done youre homework! I'm gona hafta say Gundam.

[whiskeymancer]

Please explain to me how a colossal alternate evolution of humanity, with abilities including the absorbtion of things like S2 units, and the power to combat creatures capable of desrtoying the gundam universe as we know it is to be defeated by an armoured suit that can't hurt it. Remember the N2 mine? If nuclear weaponry wont hurt it, well. Not to say Kamille's powers of the dead aren't cool, but seriously....

[~Asuka's Tears Of Pain~]

Neon Genesis Evangelion!!!
duh!! lol,i love that show / movies and if you have seen the E.O.E thats an awsome movie although it is very dramatic and sooooooo unaxpectable!! omg!!

[Rowloman]

Supior Defenders gundam SD yah there the best.

[jennyelric]

eva is the best

[White Wolf Of Solomon]

Supior Defenders gundam SD yah there the best......are you serious,there auh...was not much depth to that particular series

[Zanethose]

Well you cant just say Gundam...unless you mean the original gundam then thats ok @.@

But anyway....i would have to say that Gundam takes the cake in calls of action..but Evangellion has a better story....so i dont know @.@

[White Wolf Of Solomon]

Well you cant just say Gundam...unless you mean the original gundam then thats ok @.@

But anyway....i would have to say that Gundam takes the cake in calls of action..but Evangellion has a better story....so i dont know @.@yeah i loved the original gundam it was spectacular,my favorite gundam was the Hi Nu gundam,i liked most of the ones that took place in the UC timeline

[Zanethose]

yeah i loved the original gundam it was spectacular,my favorite gundam was the Hi Nu gundam,i liked most of the ones that took place in the UC timeline

Yea most of the ones in UC timeline were pretty good....i liked the original Gouf...or the Gouf custom from 8th MS Team....they both rock...

[halcyon23]

i would say Gundam its the best

[mel_001]

I would choose Gundam

[White Wolf Of Solomon]

the battle between that Couf Custom and the 08th MS team had to be in 2nd or 3rd place as the best one out of every Gundam battle

[jep'ray]

hmm the Eva suits have a agile advantage till one of the gundam suits yanks it power cord...but as for gundams my fav is 08th MS team.

[-Shinigami-]

Hmm... I'd want gundam to win, but there's no way a gundam can defeat a EVA..
Maybe several ace pilots?

[-Shinigami-]

Hmm... I'd want gundam to win, but there's no way a gundam can defeat a EVA..
Maybe several ace pilots?

Edit: Sorry for the double post! The thing was, when I posted a message, it said 'This site could not be displayed.' So I pressed back, and my post wasn't there, so I posted it again. Now that I checked this thread, I saw that I made an accidental double post. Sorry!

[International 4-8818]

Hmm now correct me if im wrong, but are the evangelion suits body tissue or something. Like i remember a bit like them being produced like humans and such. So i am going to base my opinion on that and say gundam. A strong armoured machine that runs on nuclear power against a flesh machine that runs on an electric cord.

Rowloman are you kidding me? A 5 foot SD gundam against a 2 story evangelion suit. Yeah......... even if it had some like god like performance it would still be crushed.

[-Shinigami-]

Hmm now correct me if im wrong, but are the evangelion suits body tissue or something. Like i remember a bit like them being produced like humans and such. So i am going to base my opinion on that and say gundam. A strong armoured machine that runs on nuclear power against a flesh machine that runs on an electric cord.

Rowloman are you kidding me? A 5 foot SD gundam against a 2 story evangelion suit. Yeah......... even if it had some like god like performance it would still be crushed.
You are right in saying that Evas are similarily produced as humans (I mean to say that they are very similar to humans, and yes, they are like a hybrid of flesh and machine). But, you have to remember that Evas are equipped with AT fields (like a barrier which prevents damage from regular attacks). If you watch NGE, you can see in the beginning episodes how the armies mass attack an angel with tanks and whatnot, and then they use their ultimate weapon, a bomb. But, the angel didn't get damaged at all. Now, replace the word "angel" with "Eva", and make the "Eva" have about three times more power... so yes, I think that and Eva would easily defeat a gundam.

[jep'ray]

lol, just send a few gundam to mess with the eva and send someone around back to yank the power cord. The Evas eat batt power fast, and as long as it can't get to another house sized wall socket...

[-Shinigami-]

lol, just send a few gundam to mess with the eva and send someone around back to yank the power cord. The Evas eat batt power fast, and as long as it can't get to another house sized wall socket...
Hmm... but what if the Eva had its own external source (like Eva 01 eating an angel to get its own external power source in the later episodes)? Plus, with other Evas as backup, then gundams would be nothing.

[International 4-8818]

Hmm, so if an eva can defend against a regular attack then what about a nuclear attack? Send a kamakzai pilot and cling onto an eva and self destruct the gundam and bam you got yourself a dead eva, and a dead gundam. Well some gundams had nuclear weapons so HEY!

[-Shinigami-]

Hmm, so if an eva can defend against a regular attack then what about a nuclear attack? Send a kamakzai pilot and cling onto an eva and self destruct the gundam and bam you got yourself a dead eva, and a dead gundam. Well some gundams had nuclear weapons so HEY!
Hmm... well I think that nuclear weapons wouldn't be effective enough against an Eva's AT Field (even if there was a kamikaze gundam or something). But, this is just my thinking (we can't really prove that Evas are stronger than gundams or vice-versa).

[TheChesireCat]

Although I'm not a big fan of either (Gundam's storyline never held my attention for very long and Evangelion's so-called "protagonist" was a self-obsessed, weak-minded fool) I would have to say... Evangelion.

[smile1010]

Evnagelion Sucks!!!

[asian_brad]

I thought both series where decent, I would suggest them but I wouldn't watch the whole series more than once.

[koyatogashi]

definitely Gundam,go Heero Yuy!!! ^_^

[-Shinigami-]

Evnagelion Sucks!!!
Now why in the world does Evangelion suck? -_-;;

[randy_peltier2000]

Its a complete tie i see the view points on boths sides they would be at a stale mate....i mean the gundam has more manuverablity an fire power but the eva has the best defense. But also it depends on which mobile suit you use i mean what if you used the Turn A? It would take out all technology excluding itself wit the Moonlight Butterfly, but thats if you used the Turn A. But if it was another suit like Wing or Nu gundam, Id Say the eva would dominate due to the At Field. So wouldnt come down to which mobile suit an eva you used...an thats not even saying the pilot...so i would definetly go wit a tie.

[Light Wolf]

that right but i like g gundam cause how u move if how the gundam move now if eva had this kind of movement type then they would all die cause all the piolts( not rei ) would freeze up cause the gundam poilts feel wat the gudam feel and the same with the evas so i say a tie also..

[Manhattan_Project_2000]

that right but i like g gundam cause how u move if how the gundam move now if eva had this kind of movement type then they would all die cause all the piolts( not rei ) would freeze up cause the gundam poilts feel wat the gudam feel and the same with the evas so i say a tie also..

Wow. That made no sense. The G Gundam's movement system is already almost the same as the Eva's control system. Both have pain feedback. As for the rest of what you said, I have no clue what you are talking about.