Gundam - Official discussion thread

[Sophonax]

All discussion about the Gundam series goes here. :D Please leave it as that. Maybe we won't have a billion thread floating around. ^_^

[Qeeun]

All i have to say is that Gundam Seed...RULES!!!!

[Jade Lee]

Gundam Seed rules, but GSDestiny is the biggest disappointment evar...

[Mistress Koneko]

Here are the Gundam movies and series I have seen so far

I have seen:

Gundam 0080: War in the Pocket
Gundam SEED
Gundam SEED Destiny
Mobile Suit Gundam Movies 1-3

I've seen parts of:

Turn A Gundam - couldn't find more eps to download
Zeta Gundam - haven't had time to watch the rest of it yet

[Shinigami Ichigo]

I would agree with the statement that SEED Destiny was a huge disappointment. Something about Shinn bugged me big time. Best Gundam show that I have seen is either 08th MS Team, Gundam X, or Mobile Suit Gundam.

[La3m]

*joins in the frenzy...

Hmmm... I maybe quite agreed with GSD being quite disappointment thou it's an interesting esp. to watch. Too many loose ends.

I hope in the After PHASE (which will be out on 24/2/2006) will shine some light on some of these issues:
What happen Shinn after the battle and effects of that war on him. Also, relationship between Luna and Shinn, will it stay or otherwise
The world after Second Bloody Valentine War: Effects on EA, ZAFT/PLANT also Orb. Will the turmoil continues?
Athrun and Cagalli: what happen to their relationship?


There's also rumors of 3rd installment of C.E timeline, rumored to be titled as Gundam SEED Eternity. Insufficient info 'bout that matter, we just wait and see what happens...

BTW, here some of Gundam series that I had seen:
MS Gundam SEED
MS Gundam SEED Destiny
Char's Counterattack
Gundam F91
MS Gundam Wing (aired in local TV, up to esp 24, missed some of the esp.)


'nough said...

[Anime is poison]

My favorite Gundam series was the original Mobile Suit Gundam. It had a simple display of MS with a very good storyline.

[zodiak]

here here:D

[Sailor Neko]

But..But I know GUNDAM WING RULES!! *yeah baby*
Plus it's the only one I like so far. Next comes Gundam Seed.

[zodiak]

i don't get what the fuss is with gundam wing is. Just a bunch of quirs making out in mobile suits.:eek:

[Sophonax]

Remember, people. This is NOT a "Gundam <whatever> rulez0rz"-thread.

[blackfuse81]

well gundam seed destiny started out ok but when it got to episode 40 it sucked big time
2 recap episodes in the last 10 episodes and then they rapped up the final fight in 2 episodes

[Shinigami Ichigo]

I don't understand why they introduced Shinn in the first place. It seems to me that Kira makes a much more interesting character. I guess that is why they focused more on him than Shinn after Kira was re-introduced. I had not heard about another C.E. timeline series. I hope they don't milk it like they did with the U.C. Of course, I heard a rumor a while ago that they had planned another U.C. series. Go with what works, eh?

[raziel]

Gundam Seed And Wing Are The Best.

[Sailor Neko]

I guess I love Gundam Wing because it has emotion and not just for boys. I don't really care for Gundam Seed because Kira cries every other episode. Not that I care but it does get carried away. But what makes Gundam my favorite series in all time is the way they make outer space. I hate the 3D space and the way they do the ships like that. :<_<:

[Shinigami Ichigo]

Personally, I like the SD series the best (the comedy ones, not the dreadful SD Gundam Force). Those are so funny, but the best gundam series in my opinion is X. Something about the whole thing just appealed to me (maybe it is the fact that the lead character is a teenage kid with actual issues, and he doesn't have any super powers)

[chob]

I like MS Gundam X After War. Even though Ive seen loads more. But i wana watch all the Gundam Series/Movies

Here are the ones Ive seen:
Gundam SEED
Gundam SEED Destiny
Gundam X
Gundam V
Gundam ZZ
Gundam F91
Gundam MS 08th Team
Gundam 0080:War in the Pocket
Gundam W
Gundam W:EW
SD Gundam (not all of them)

[Shinigami Ichigo]

I have only seen SEED, Destiny, MSG, Gundam X, 08th MS Team, 0083, ZZ, part of Wing, all of G, all of the SD's (yes, even Force), and Endless Waltz. I so want to see Zeta tho.

[chob]

I also want to see zeta,MSG and 0083 too.the annoying thing is that the UK dont have them,so i can only get it by importing them.

[blackfuse81]

i have only seen gundam seed/destiny, and G
which gundam series do you think i should watch?

[Riku_Dagashi]

my faves would prolly be gundam wing, gundam seed and mobile suit gundam XD they are awsome though gundam wing is my #1

[Sinjoda]

G Gundam it was different from all the others, but I still like Seed too. Hmmm tough choices if I had to choose.

[SGI]

Okay, here is the Gundam Series I have seen:

Mobile Suit Gundam (TV and Movie Editions)
Zeta Gundam
Gundam ZZ
Char's Counterattack
Gundam F91
Victory Gundam
Gundam 08th MS Team
Gundam 0080: War in the Pocket
Gundam 0083: Stardust Memory
Gundam Wing
Gundam Wing: Endless Waltz
Gundam X
Turn A Gundam
Gundam Seed
Gundam Seed Destiny (To ep 35)
SD Gundam Mk 1+2

My favourite Gundam series is easily Zeta Gundam, it had not only the best main characters (heros and villains alike) but also a very well written, solid storyline.

And personally I HATED that Kira stole most of the limelight in Seed Destiny, it seems as if they only did that for rating purposes, Shinn was a far more interesting and deep character.

Who does everyone think was the best Gundam Villain? Now theres an interesting question. (VIVA HAMAN KARN)

[La3m]

*joins in the frenzy...
And personally I HATED that Kira stole most of the limelight in Seed Destiny, it seems as if they only did that for rating purposes, Shinn was a far more interesting and deep character.
Yeap, I quite agreed with you. There's not 'nough room for both of them which in the end of the GSD, Kira becomes the hero and Shinn is left crying and broken. Both of them are like Ying and Yang.

As you mention it Don SGI, although I would go with Gilbert as the best villian as he is cunning and manuplative, yet other two best villian in Gundam so far (I need to watch those U.C timeline more) are Char Aznable and also pyschotic Rau le Crueset.

'nough said...

[SGI]

Aaaah Char, how can anybody NOT love him, he easily has the best screen presence I have ever seen in any anime.

[clowtrigger]

Ple, Haman just those two people make my day in UC.....

[SGI]

Hmmm Elpe Puru was kind of annoying, I liked Ple 2 alot more, she didn't seem to have the same obsession of running around naked. I find the thought of a child naked kind of disturbing, especially when you know what some of the fanboys were REALLY thinking when they saw her.

[Shinigami Ichigo]

Personally, as far as Gundam characters go, I liked Judau Ashta or Garrod Ran best for pilots (I usually like the punk kid characters :p ), and Char is by far the best villain to me.

[SGI]

Hmmm as for main Gundam pilots, I really liked Rohlan Cehak (Turn A Gundam) and Camille Bidan (Z Gundam).

[Shinigami Ichigo]

I never watched Turn A Gundam (that Gundam just looks too weird to me). Am I missing out?

[SGI]

Well it depends, if you watch Gundams for cool mecha designs, then it sucks, but if you're after a deep, but slower paced yet ultimately rewarding storyline, then it's probally the best AU gundam series there is.

[Shinigami Ichigo]

Well, I don't watch it for the mechas, and I do enjoy strong story elements, it's just that THAT particular mecha design was somewhat... odd. Something about that mustache just irked me. I think I may end up seeing it at some point. Thanks for the advice. Would you say that it is superior to original Gundam?

[SGI]

Hmmm that's a tough call, personally, I like Turn A more than the original Gundam, the only Gundam series I like more than Turn A are probally Zeta and Gundam 0080.

[Mistress Koneko]

I still need to finish up Zeta Gundam sometime ^^;; I keep getting interrupted by my comp crashing and having to redownload everything ^^;; Although at this point I should just start over since it's been so long since I've seen it ^^;;

[La3m]

*joins in the frenzy...

I envied you guys 'cause I still new in this Gundam frenzy... (GS open me interest into the Gundam universe) so, my knowledge in UC timeline is limited... gotta get more UC Gundam DVD...

Ok, here some trivia for GSD (may contained spoilers):
Thru' out the of GSD, the Archangel NEVER fires both of its Lohengrin althou it has to be confronted with Minerva
DOM "Jetstream Attack" pays homage to the original Gundam series with the same MS model


Might add later...

'nough said...

[Shinigami Ichigo]

I have a couple of general questions:
1. How would you rate ZZ against Zeta?
2. Is 0080 really that good (something about it just irked me)?
3. Is there going to be a third CE series?
and 4. Is Victory any good (saw half, but lost interest for one reason or another)?

[SGI]

1.)Zeta is far superiour to ZZ (Or Double Zeta), as it is actually written by Gundam's creator Yoshiyuki Tomino. ZZ's main shortfalling was the target audience of the series was lowered (To around the age of 8-13), ZZ has elements focused mainly on comedy and a rather simplistic plot.

Zeta on the other hand is aimed at an age of around 16+ and is a much darker series. The series has very strong elements of character development and a strong emphasis on the tragedy of war.

2.)I liked it personally myself, it was a much more slowly paced story, and I rather enjoyed the bitter tone that it took, it was far less cheesy than 0083.

3.)Rumours so far say it may be possible, but they have to close up Destiny first (They have to do those obnoxious special edition cuts and of course the Destiny MSV's).

4.)I liked it personally, but it did lose a lot of steam in the middle of the story. I think the show had very weak characters (They didn't seem that they were that well explored) but the story itself on the other hand was excellent.

[Shinigami Ichigo]

Where do you get your Gundam? I am stuck with fansubs, which gets a somewhat varying quality in subtitles (translations and timing).

Is the kid in 0080 the lead character? I think that is what made me decide against viewing it.

I hope there is no third CE series (the end of Destiny was sooooooo weak). Unless they decide to make Shinn a full-fledged character, and make him Kira's real rival.

Also, I heard a rumor a while ago about ANOTHER UC series. Know if that is true (hope not)?

[SGI]

I normally get mine via fansubs and bootleg HK DVD's.

I'd say there were 2 main characters in 0080, Alfred (the kid) and Bernie (A Zaku pilot), I disliked Al myself, but Bernie was an excellent character.

And finally there is a newish UC series called MS IGLOO, which is a CG presentation.

[Shinigami Ichigo]

I do remember that I didn't mind Bernie, but that kid was so aggravating. Is Alex in it much?

[SGI]

Alex as in the Gundam NT-1 makes two major apearences, if you mean Christina, she's in it a little.

[Shinigami Ichigo]

I couldn't remember the name of the pilot ^^;; I just knew her from Journey to Jaburo. Speaking of which, what is the best Gundam anyone has played? Personally, I like either Gundam Wing Endless Duel or Journey to Jaburo.

[SGI]

Well to be honest, most of the Gundam games suck donkey balls, although I like SD Gundam X for pure stratergy and AEUG vs Titans.

[Shinigami Ichigo]

I can see the bad points in most of the games, including Jaburo, but I still throughly enjoy that game. Probably because getting all the videos is so dang hard once you are proficient at the game.

Which Gundam do you consider the weakest in the franchise?

[SGI]

Probally either Gundam Wing or Gundam ZZ, both really had the same problem of aiming away from the traditional Gundam target audience and failing miserably.

[Shinigami Ichigo]

I actually kind of liked ZZ, especially the beginning parts (probably only because it was different from other Gundam series for the most part)

[SGI]

I found the begining part of ZZ to be absolutely awful. Mashima was a complete moron, Judau was anoying, they reduced the hardcore and deadly Yzan to a complete joke, and that scrap heap guy, he was a complete waste of time.

[Shinigami Ichigo]

I agree that that junk guy was super pointless, and the show did get much more entertaining as it went on. But is Zeta that much better?

[Mistress Koneko]

I think we should rename this thread to Don SGI's & Shinigami Ichigo's Gundam Discussion thread..... :unsure: just a thought....

:P

[Shinigami Ichigo]

How about a question to you then? Which Gundam is your favorite series? Which do you think has the best mecha? Which do you think has the best mecha design? Which has your least favorite character(s)?

[Mistress Koneko]

How about a question to you then? Which Gundam is your favorite series? Which do you think has the best mecha? Which do you think has the best mecha design? Which has your least favorite character(s)?
Well I haven't seen as much as you guys have and I am still pretty new to the whole Gundam universe.

So far I think I liked Destiny the best, even though it really kind of fell flat at the end leaving the viewer completely baffled. It had some good characters that developed pretty well, even though they took their sweet time getting to it.

SEED and Destiny definately had the most mecha I have seen but I dunno about the BEST. It was like "Gundams and MS for everyone!" I think Wing had some good mecha in it, I really liked the Deathscythe Gundam.

I dunno much about design. ^^;; I like things to be kind of simple. The gundams and MS in SEED and Destiny were so loaded up with so many different things it was like god mode gundams. I like Bardfelt's Bakcaw (or however you spell that) I also liked Lafllaga's ship with the funnel system.

My least favorite characters would have to be Kira from SEED and Amuro from Zeta. Kira was an absolute cry baby through out the whole of SEED and made you just wanna smack him! Amuro turned into a punk in Zeta, or at least as far as I've seen which is ep 18, and was just a jerk to everyone. Made me wanna smack him too....

[Shinigami Ichigo]

I think Amuro acts like a jerk because he has gone through an entire war where most of the load was placed on him. Pressure changes people after all. Kira I think is just emotional.

The Gundam character I hated the most, by far, was Shinn. I mean, he NEVER figures out why he is fighting, and just fights for the sake of fighting. What is that all about?

[SGI]

Hmmm well let's see, my favourite Mecha in all of Gundam would be the AMX-004 Qubeley from Zeta/ZZ, my favourite Gundam/s (I can't choose) would be the RX-178 Gundam Mk-II (Titans Colours) and the RX-78-3 Gundam G-3.

My favourite chracter is Haman Karn and my least favourite would be either that Junk guy from ZZ, Fa Yuri from Zeta or Beecha and Mondo from ZZ.

[Shinigami Ichigo]

I forgot all about those guys. They are very annoying. Do you think Haro counts as a character?

[SGI]

Hmm, no he's really more of a mascot.

[Shinigami Ichigo]

FAvorite female from Gundam?

[SGI]

Haman Karn, no contest there.

[Shinigami Ichigo]

Personally I would say either Allenby from G or Hilde from Wing.

[SGI]

G's the only GundamI haven't seen, although honestly it doesn't look like it's worth paying full price for.

[Shinigami Ichigo]

Well, that depends on what you are looking for. If you want a Gundam series that is TOTALLY different from the others, where there is no slaughter at the end (or any point), and no actual war, then I would recommend it. I actually love it a whole lot, mostly because the last 10 minutes of the series is so awesome, it makes the rest of it worth it (which is good itself in my opinion). It is far better than Wing. I think to watch and enjoy it, you must have a tolerance for DBZ (there is lots of action in G Gundam)

[SGI]

That sounds rather interesting, although I would probally end up seeing it eventually, although the DBZish elements don't really interest me.

[Shinigami Ichigo]

It is not as overblown as DBZ, just to clarify. I think it based much more on the Chinese idea of "chi" and focusing that. My favorite part of the show is the relationship between Domon and Rain. It is good to see a relationship that is obvious in a series, actually blossom.

[animegirl2538]

Hey, everyone. I'm still new to the whole Gundam universe, but I have a mission to watch every bit of Gundam available to me. I've watched all of SEED and the first ep of Destiny, and all of G Gundam (different from the others, kinda fell into a fight-of-the-week format, but got rolling after awhile). I also own the original MS Gundam (watched first 5 volumes) and the 08th MS Team and the Miller's Report movie. This may sound retarded but my favorite character from seed (besides Athrun) was Dearka. I enjoyed watching his character develop over the last few volumes.

[SGI]

Dearka was cool, but personally, in SEED I was a big fan of Yzak.

[Sake]

I've only seen the first 4 episodes of Wing, but I'm gonna watch more once I download them.

[lil slugger91]

well...l like G gundam and gundam wing they asr good series!!!!!!

[Shinigami Ichigo]

What did you think of the character Heine?

[animegirl2538]

Yzak is growing on me. I want to watch Destiny, but I hear they (Dearka and Yzak) don't play a big role in the show. I'm not the type to pick the lead char as my fave.

[Shinigami Ichigo]

They aren't in Destiny much. The epitome of support characters.

[SGI]

Never ever really liked any lead characters in Gundam, except Rohlan and Kamille.

[Shinigami Ichigo]

My favorite lead character is definitely Garrod. It is hard for me to like characters with super powers.

[Shinigami Ichigo]

I am sorry to double post, but I just saw the last episode of Turn-A Gundam, and... wow. That series is freaking amazing. I had my doubts at first, but it all came together. Definitely not for those expecting the huge set-piece battles that Gundam is known for, but worth seeing if you have access to a good net connection. For me, the only thing I had a complaint with is that Guin deserved some sort of come-uppence, and I felt really bad for Sochie at the end (Loran should have ended up with her instead of the queen :( )

[darksakura1]

Gundam Wing all the way!!!
But..both are interesting do....

[SGI]

I am sorry to double post, but I just saw the last episode of Turn-A Gundam, and... wow. That series is freaking amazing. I had my doubts at first, but it all came together. Definitely not for those expecting the huge set-piece battles that Gundam is known for, but worth seeing if you have access to a good net connection. For me, the only thing I had a complaint with is that Guin deserved some sort of come-uppence, and I felt really bad for Sochie at the end (Loran should have ended up with her instead of the queen :( )
I definately felt bad for Schie, but c'mon Diana and Rohlan/Loran were made for each other.

I absolutely love Turn-A, definately the best of the AU Gundam series. Although it was kinda cute how Guin and Merrybell ended up together.

[Shinigami Ichigo]

That one was really out of nowhere, but they deserve each other.

I recently saw the end of Zeta Gundam, and the only complaint I had was that half the show was the various Newtypes reacting to each other. "Is that...", and "could it be..." and "it must be..." type of thing happening all the time. Do you think ZZ will be licensed anytime soon? I have a version on my discs, but the quality is dreadfully low, so I wanna get a re-mastered version :p

[SGI]

I think it will have a rather low key series, although i'm happy with a low quality version. Quite honestly, I don't think Double Zeta is worth paying for.

[Shinigami Ichigo]

Me either (mostly because of the first half). But if it is licensed, I can look forward to possibly having a high quality DVD-rip :p Oddly, I liked the first half of it the first time viewing it, now I like the second half better. I wonder what becomes of him after his series? I mean, among the 3 main leads, he is the only one who is never shown again.

[SGI]

I hated the 1st half right from the get go, esoecially the Moon Moon colony.

As for Juduau, I assume he lived happily as a helium farmer (Ironically where the cool, calculated and menacing Paptimuss Sirocco got his start)

[Shinigami Ichigo]

I must admit, it was a little disappointing the way Haman went out in ZZ. I mean, after TOTALLY owning Scirocco, Char, and Kamille, she takes it super easy on Judau (no offense, but let's face the fact that he doesn't compare to the others). I guess affection does make you do strange things.

[zodiak]

hey, anyone know when gundam seed destiny comes out in america? i have been anticipating to what happens in the series.

[Shinigami Ichigo]

Word to the wise, don't be anticipating too much. Huge let down for me compared to SEED. I am not sure that it will actually be aired on television, because SEED has been so low rated that it is on alternating Saturday mornings at 5 AM.

[zodiak]

wait you mean that the destiny is on 5 in the morning on saturday? or the ols seed

[Shinigami Ichigo]

I assume it is SEED, but I have never been up that late to know for sure.

[SGI]

On Double Zeta: I found Haman's admiration of Judau to really be a let down, she really was a lot less ruthless in ZZ, probally to make her actually able to be defeated.

On Seed DESTINY: I absolutely HATED how Kira and crew hijacked the series. From the start I was saying how the series would suck if that happened. And lo and behold guess what happened.

[Shinigami Ichigo]

Response to ZZ: Everyone acts differently when they are "in love". Maybe that was Haman's way. I mean, in Zeta, she genuinely hated Scirocco and Kamille, hence the ownage.

Resonse to Destiny: I sincerely hope they make a final, third season to develop a real rivalry between Shinn and Kira. Every Gundam lead needs a rival, and to this point Kira doesn't have one (he is just too Godlike for my taste). Shinn seems like the closest in skill, if he develops a reason to fight Kira.

[clowtrigger]

Resonse to Destiny: I sincerely hope they make a final, third season to develop a real rivalry between Shinn and Kira. Every Gundam lead needs a rival, and to this point Kira doesn't have one (he is just too Godlike for my taste). Shinn seems like the closest in skill, if he develops a reason to fight Kira.Actually Shinn has Forgiven Kira on the point that

Calamity Actually Killed Shinn's Family

[Shinigami Ichigo]

*embarassed* I guess I shouldn't make comments without seeing the whole series :p What do you think is the best rivalry from a Gundam series?

[Shinigami Hilde]

Gundam Wing was definitely high up there. The mechs were cool and the characters were cooler. You could just do *soo* much with the characters in that anime. Their personalities were mutable enough so that when you actually took them out of the show itself and looked at them they were the most amazing people and personalties.

It was the second real anime I ever got into and I loved it so much. RPing it was awesome, writing and reading fanfics opened my eyes to a cascade of different possibilities for these characters and drawing fanart allowed me to stage them in my own little worlds.

To boot this series had so many gaps and plot holes in the storyline that it was absolutely fun filling them up with the characters personalities and guesses at what could have happened inbetween then and there. It left mystery in the whole thing that only the good fan could make use of. ^^

[飛竜]

I did watched Original Gundam, Gundam 83, G Gundam, Gundam W, Gundam X, GS, and GSD. I do love them all. My fave character is Murakumo Gai from Kidou Senshi Gundamu SEED Astray, Amuro Ray from Char's Counterattack, Lacus Clyne from Gundam SEED, Tifa Adil from New Mobile Century Gundam X, Christina Mackenzie from Gundam 80: War in Pickpocket, Kamiru Bidan from Z Gundam, Chronicle Asher from V Gundam, Heero Yuy from Gundam W, Shin Asuka from Gundam SEED Destiny, and Jess Rebble from GSDA.

[Qeeun]

ok, Gundam Wing is good along with Gundam Seed and G gundam, however GSD has not yet been released in USA but will shortly so well see how good it does.

[Shinigami Ichigo]

Oh boy, the return of 5 year old Lacus. I wonder what time slot it will be on when they air it.

I just finished watching 0083 for the first time in forever, and it got me wondering who is your most hated (for whatever reason) character from Gundam? I think I should separate this into male and female characters. To me, the character I hate the most by a MILE is Nina Purpleton from 0083. For guys, I think I would have to say pretty much any higher up in the Federation (they are all pretty much the same character).

[飛竜]

Oh boy, the return of 5 year old Lacus. I wonder what time slot it will be on when they air it.

I just finished watching 0083 for the first time in forever, and it got me wondering who is your most hated (for whatever reason) character from Gundam? I think I should separate this into male and female characters. To me, the character I hate the most by a MILE is Nina Purpleton from 0083. For guys, I think I would have to say pretty much any higher up in the Federation (they are all pretty much the same character).
Well for mine the hated character that I dislike for the male would be Yuuna Roma Seiran from GSD he is a total spineless worm and trying to get Cagalli from Athrun in order to manipulate. And for the female would be Mirai Yashima from Original Gundam well because she can be so annoying and emotional. That is all I would say.

[Shinigami Ichigo]

I totally forgot about that guy. He was certainly a douche.

[Keo lord archer]

gundam X

[Reika Yagami]

The series Mobile Suit Gundam Seed, Mobile Suit Gundam Seed Destiny, New Mobile Report Gundam Wing, Afterwar Gundam X, and Mobile Fighter G Gundam I did watched for a long time! ^^

[Shinigami Ichigo]

I remember the first Gundam series I was exposed to was Wing, but I only saw the last few episodes. The first one I saw in its entirety was Mobile Suit Gundam. Since then, I have been totally hooked on Gundam. Recently, I found that I can only really stand the UC Gundam series, with the exception of Gundam X. Do you prefer UC or AU Gundam?

[Reika Yagami]

I remember the first Gundam series I was exposed to was Wing, but I only saw the last few episodes. The first one I saw in its entirety was Mobile Suit Gundam. Since then, I have been totally hooked on Gundam. Recently, I found that I can only really stand the UC Gundam series, with the exception of Gundam X. Do you prefer UC or AU Gundam?
For my humble opinion, I would rather being of UC. ^_~ Does anybody knows Mobile Suit Gundam Astray and Mobile Suit Gundam Destiny Astray?

[Shinigami Ichigo]

Heard of it, but never bothered downloading it. I heard it is good. Heard the rumors about Gundam SEED 3? Speculation on possible plot?

[Reika Yagami]

Ah btw Shinigami-san, there is VCD of Mobile Suit Gundam Seed Astray at anime stores but it is quite rare to find it. ^^;;

[Shinigami Ichigo]

VCD? Not familiar with that, sorry. I get all my Gundam off the net though, because it would be far too costly otherwise.:p

[Reika Yagami]

Wow you sure are lucky guy.... ^^

[Shinigami Ichigo]

BTW, what is VCD? I like to expand my vocabulary whenever I can :)

[Sophonax]

I don't care -how- you get the series. As long as it is illegal, such as downloading, I don't want any talk about it here. Both of the posts above have been edited out. Next time, I will give both of you a warning.

If you believe it's not illegal because it's not licensed or whatever, go read the Berne Convention.

This warning goes for anyone as well.

[Shinigami Ichigo]

I'm sure I have said something like this before, but I am not a big fan of censorship. It is not like we were saying "go out and download pirated anime" or something. Also, I believe that the ones talking about it would be the ones in trouble, not the Admins of the forum. Just a thought.

Anyway, anyone ever play a good Gundam game?

[Shinigami Hilde]

What's so bad about pirated anime? If you get it-good for you. As long as your not caught.

[Shinigami Ichigo]

It is just a way of life. I don't like to take money away from the companies who try to bring anime to america, but when you only put 3 episodes on a DVD and charge almost 30 bucks, there is no other choice.

Does anyone know how to get the Ramba Ral's Attack A video on Journey to Jaburo?

[Sophonax]

Pirated anime is illegal.
I don't want people to talk about illegal things in my forum.
End of story.

Continue the discussion about pirated animes, and have your posts edited or deleted.

[SGI]

With the most hated characters, mine are:

Males: That junk guy from Gundam ZZ whose name I always forget.
Females: Laccus Clyne and Rinoa Peacecraft (I hate preachers so very very much)

[animeadmirer]

My recent favorites are of course Gundam SEED and Gundam SEED Destiny. I liked both of them.

The only real compliant I had on GSD was that Shinn played his role as a annoyign angst filled kid a bit too long for him to be salvaged as the series' main character which resulted in Kira taking the lead again. The biggest complaint I ever had in a anime was the ending of GSD which was.... disappointing to say the least. It was the worst episode I've ever seen in my life in any anime, movie, or book. I'm not joking.

I've seen the re-make version of it and it came out pretty decently though some may complain that there is still a bit too much showing of old action clips (eg. two ZAKU Gunners taking a shot at Akatsuki only to be destroyed when their own attacks are deflected rigth back at them.). I still think it's pretty great. There is a final part which brings many of the major characters in ony place. Worth watching if the GSD ending was a trauma.

In the final moments we see Athrun, Shinn, Lunamaria, and Meyrin at the memorial at Orb where Kira and Shinn met a while ago. Shinn admits though he hates this place he hates all the desturction and ruin around the site. Not too long after Kira and Lacus join them and finally Kira and Shinn meet with knowing the identities of each other. In the end Kira manages to finish the converting process of Shinn from a near-Darth-Vader-to-be-Anakin-Skywalker into a decent person on the right path in life.

Interesting thing to note is how everyone departs from the memorial. Kira and Lacus departs which Lacus resting her head on Kira's shoulder. Shinn and Luna linger around. And Athrun and Meyrin depart. Though unconfirmed it was often shown that there is a remote possibility of a Athrun-Meyrin pairing. At one point Cagalli says she thinks Meyrin likes Athrun to Athrun in the same conversation of Cagalli apologizing for all the she has done to Athrun since they left each others company. Also, Cagalli at one point asked Meyrin to take good care of Athrun. And also, Cagalli is not once shown talking with Athrun after the battle of whatever. She seems to have fully devoted herself in her role as the leader of Orb. Though the Athrun-Cagalli pairing is far from over as for example in the opening parts Athrun is shown hugging Cagalli just before Archangel departs for the moon. I wonder if Caglli is feelign guilty and now has given her body and soul to ORb while leaving Athrun in another person's hands whom she feels is capable. I dunno.

In any case, all this does leave a good enough opening for the Athrun-Meyrin possibility. Athrun doesn't exactly have feelings for Meyrin, not yet anyway, though he does have for Cagalli. But he does have some fondness towards Meyrin and obligation to look after Meyrin. There's only enough events to leave an opening for a possibility for another but that's it. Athrun and Cagalli may still very likely end up up with each other.

[Shinigami Ichigo]

I never saw the end of GSD yet, and I am not sure if I ever will, judging by what people say about it. I am hoping for a solid resolution to things in the soon to be announced 3rd installment of the CE Universe. I think Athrun/Meyrin make a cute couple, don't really know how to explain why :)

[Reika Yagami]

Btw, don't you think that Shinn is similar to Uchiha Sasuke and talks about revenge. Does anyone love Shinn? There are times he can so nice guy in the inside! ^^

[SGI]

Actually, of the "Main Characters" of Gundam Seed (i.e Kira, Athuran and Shinn), Shinn is actually my favourite. There is something in his bitter personallity which gives him a good amount of depth. Most of which was left untapped by the writers in favour of apealing to fangirls.

[Shinigami Ichigo]

Unfortunately, according to what I have heard about the ending, the hope I had for a rivalry between Kira and Shinn is not meant to be (maybe he will have to fight Athrun again at some point?). Is there any true rivalry in Gundam other than Amuro/Char?

[Reika Yagami]

Actually, of the "Main Characters" of Gundam Seed (i.e Kira, Athuran and Shinn), Shinn is actually my favourite. There is something in his bitter personallity which gives him a good amount of depth. Most of which was left untapped by the writers in favour of apealing to fangirls.I absolutely agree of Shinn's role. I just remember about his past back then he was 14 or 15 since he has with his parents and also his sister Maya. But unfortunate the Earth Alliance planned to attack at the place of ORB where Uzumi Athha, Cagalli's father died when they were escape to the space also Shinn's parents and his sister killed from the explosion from the Calamity's attack and he started on revenge. He seems like Sasuke.

[飛竜]

I totally forgot about that guy. He was certainly a douche.
Yeah I agree that too. Many people dislike Yuuna Roma Seiran. :cool:

[Shinigami Ichigo]

I recently have been watching alot of UC Gundam, and it is amazing some of the stuff you realize when you go back. For instance, I never realized that they show Haman in 0083, in addition to Jamitov and Bask (I think that is his name). Also that the entire crew from 0083 joins the Titans (wonder what happened to them by Zeta).

[飛竜]

I recently have been watching alot of UC Gundam, and it is amazing some of the stuff you realize when you go back. For instance, I never realized that they show Haman in 0083, in addition to Jamitov and Bask (I think that is his name). Also that the entire crew from 0083 joins the Titans (wonder what happened to them by Zeta).So what happened to Kou Uraki and the others if they were join from the Titans?

[Shinigami Ichigo]

They all probably got wasted by Kamille and Co. However, I would imagine that Kou was probably not involved too deeply (probably just a test pilot again)

[SGI]

If I remember correctly, Kou never joined the Titans, nor did his mate with the glasses whose name just slipped my mind. But yeah as for the rest they probally got wasted during the war.

I never noticed Bask, Jamitov or Haman during 0083 because I first watched it before Zeta.

[Shinigami Ichigo]

I also had not noticed, but after Zeta, I watched 0083 last week, and I noticed those 3 (unfortunately, Haman only got one line :( ) After watching Zeta, and having already seen ZZ, I am becoming a big fan of Haman (so nice to see a strong female character in the Gundam universe).

[SGI]

Well, as a Haman fan I beg to ask...

When the hell is CDA going to be published in english?

[Shinigami Ichigo]

Possibly an ignorant question, but what is CDA?

[飛竜]

If I remember correctly, Kou never joined the Titans, nor did his mate with the glasses whose name just slipped my mind. But yeah as for the rest they probally got wasted during the war.

I never noticed Bask, Jamitov or Haman during 0083 because I first watched it before Zeta.
Are you talking about Chuck Keith, Kou's best buddy?

[SGI]

CDA aka Char's Deleted Affair: Portrait of a Young Comet
It's a recent manga series which is about Char after the One Year War and before the Gryps War. It's main focus is on the discovery and relationship of Haman Karn and her rise to power.

[Shinigami Ichigo]

Oh man, that sounds awesome. My guess, since I had not heard of it until just now, is that it will not be published in America for some time. You know how long it is?

[SGI]

There are currently 5 volumes that are released thus far. Well, we will have to settle with the excellent series "Ecole Du Ciel"

[Shinigami Ichigo]

Yea, I had heard about that one, but wasn't sure if it was good or not. How would you rate it compared to, say, other Gundam manga?

[飛竜]

CDA aka Char's Deleted Affair: Portrait of a Young Comet
It's a recent manga series which is about Char after the One Year War and before the Gryps War. It's main focus is on the discovery and relationship of Haman Karn and her rise to power.
Excuse me, Don SGI. Is that series or manga?

[SGI]

Well Ecole Du Ciel is probally the only manga i've read that even comes close to comparing with Gundam: The Origin, it has a very strong aspect of character development and a unique art style that is absolutely beautiful.

And CDA is a manga that was featured in Gundam Ace

[飛竜]

Hmmm...interesting.

I never heard of manga before but, I did read about New Mobile Report Gundam Wing G-Unit.

[Reika Yagami]

Oh I just forget something. So by the way. My favorite villain character would be Touho Fuuhai Master Asia and favroite heroic character I think Chang Wufei and Domon Kasshu. ^_~

[Shinigami Ichigo]

Not sure if I said or not, but my favorite villain is either Haman Kahn, Char Aznable, or Shagia Frost. Hero is definitely Kira Yamato, Garrod Ran, or Kamille Bidan.

[Reika Yagami]

Oh I almost to forgot Shagia-san my favorite villain characters! ^^;;

Oh yes, Shinigami-san. Kamille Bidan has pronounced as Kamiru Bidan. ^_~

[Shinigami Ichigo]

I know the pronunciation, but I somehow think the writing out looks better with the 2 "L"s :p

[Reika Yagami]

Yes me either too Shinigami-san but, I rather like the original name from Kamille! ^^

[Shinigami Ichigo]

Speaking of names, why do you suppose that Gundam is one of the few anime to adopt the western method of names (first name then last)? Like Kira Yamato vs like Fuchoin Kazuki (2 characters with same VA :p )

[飛竜]

Thats a good question to tell Reika. The favorite evil characters were Millardo Peacecraft, Haman Karn, and Rondo Ghina Sahaku. And for the favorite good characters were Lowe Gear, Garrod Ran, Amuro Ray, and Usso Ewin. :D

[Shinigami Ichigo]

I only got around to watching like 19 episodes of Victory, and I am wondering if I am missing out like I was with missing Zeta and Turn-A?

[飛竜]

I didn't yet watched the Mobile Suit V Gundam, but I did played Super Robot Wars Neo, Super Robot Wars Alpha, SD Gundam G Generation F, SD Gundam G Generation Neo, and SD Gundam G Generation SEED that much. But this year I can buy complete DVDs for that TV series and that is the most many episodes from every Gundam series. To be honest I did finished Gundam SEED Destiny. :cool:

[Shinigami Ichigo]

I didn't know there were so many Gundam games in America (or do you play import version?) I always thought the SD Generation games looked like alot of fun, are they?

[SGI]

My favourite villain characters are Haman Karn and Paptimus Scirocco.
As for heroes, probally Rohlan (Loran) Cehack or Kamille Bidan.

[Shinigami Ichigo]

As I have said, I have been watching more Gundam series lately, and it has made me realize something. Gundam SEED seemingly copies scenes from all other Gundam series. It has very little that is original, and I was wondering if anyone else noticed this disturbing fact?

[Char The Red Comet]

Gundam SEED suposidli is dased on the original(U.C era)

[Shinigami Ichigo]

If by "based on" you mean steals all of its material (even the scene where they are going into space, and Freedom grabs Justice by the hand is copied from Zeta and Turn-A) from, then yes.

[Char The Red Comet]

I thot that they wer onle getig basic store ideas from de U.C era.

[Shinigami Ichigo]

Well, generally, it is based on it. But occasionally you can notice scenes that are ripped directly from a UC series.

[SGI]

I noticed that from the first episode. Although the one promising aspect of Seed Destiny (The excellent paraelles on September 11 and the war on terrorism) were completely swept away and turned into a forum for Kira and Athuran.

[Shinigami Ichigo]

Life is all about making money, and Gundam is no exception. I think Shinn could have been more popular than Kira had they decided to develop him into something more than a puppet for Gillbert.

[Char The Red Comet]

Eniboti jurd or red Gundam Sentinel (manga) if yo jave tel me wat yo thot

[Reika Yagami]

I agree of your comment Shinigami-san, it is better that Shinn would become a puppet or marionette to Gilbert Dullindal.

[blueseed]

wich gundam series

[blueseed]

i kinda like gundam wing

[Shinigami Ichigo]

How much of the crew from Destiny do you suppose will make an appearance in the 3rd SEED?

[Reika Yagami]

Are you talking about the Mobile Suit Gundam SEED Eternity? Well there are only appeared from SEED Destiny are 2 Lunamaria and Meyrin and SEED only 1, I would positive could be Athrun-san. ^_~

[Shinigami Ichigo]

I didn't know a title had been announced for the third season. I just hope they don't bring back all the characters to kill them off at the end, ala Zeta. I must say I was absolutely shocked to see Kira and gang all live through the end of Destiny.

[blueseed]

what was the last gundam searies on cartoonnetwork please tell me thanks

[Shinigami Ichigo]

I believe they are still showing SEED on alternating weekends (it should be on this coming Friday) at 5 AM.

What do you think is the most powerful weapon from the entire Gundam universe?

[blueseed]

that canon that they use in the last searies on cartoonn network that drains the shield

[SGI]

I think the Angel Halo from Victory Gundam is the most powerful weapon in the entire Gundam Universe.

A giant psycommu fortress which can basically attack an entire planets populus' minds is an absolutely devestating weapon.

[飛竜]

All I think out of the most powerful weapon from the entire Gundam Universe. I think Devil Jr.

This Devil Gundam Jr. is terrifying so powerful than the previous Devil Gundam. I cannot remember its attacks, but still I did played SD Gundam G Generation F and F.I.F. having many destructive weaponry and attacks.

[Shinigami Ichigo]

Personally I like the regular beam rifle on the prototype Gundam. Something about the more simple things is very appealing to me.

As for the most powerful, I have not seen Victory Gundam, so I would go with the Moonlight Butterfly from Turn-A. I mean, a weapon that nearly wiped out the Human race?

[Char The Red Comet]

Forme its Gryps2 Colony Laser from Z Gundam (I chos it over Gundam SEED's Genesis because Gryps is more mobel an it is iser to re fayer)
But the Moonlight Butterfly is probabli the most powerful Weapom in Gundam

[Shinigami Ichigo]

Forgot about the Colony Laser. That is very powerful. How large a beam do you think the I-Field could withstand?

[Char The Red Comet]

not sure but it cam stand up to a ships mane guns so it can handel alot
in 0083 the Neue Ziel stud up to a hit from the solar sytem2 tho I dont think that cauts as a beame weapon

[Shinigami Ichigo]

Also to remember, the Neue Ziel does not have an I-Field. I wonder how the GP-03 would have fared against the Solar System.

[Char The Red Comet]

Atuale it dose I chet the ofisial site an it has 4 internal I-Field generators

This is mae referens page
Ihttp://www.gundamofficial.com/worlds/uc/0083/mechanics/ma_neueziel.html
O an I thic thar GP-03 was hit to bae the Solar System tho the Dendrobriun atachemet was destrod the mobile suit it self was berle damaged

[Shinigami Ichigo]

I didn't know that.

[飛竜]

Good thing the "Nightmare of Solomon" Anavel Gato has been killed from the Solar System II however, it is different from the series of Mobile Suit when the first Solar System to use where the battle against Dozul Zabi having Big Zam.

[Shinigami Ichigo]

I didn't remember the SS being in MSG. I had always wondered why they called it the Solar System II :p

[Char The Red Comet]

Ho tho yo think is the best non nutape pilot in the Gundam universe

[Shinigami Ichigo]

That depends. If you count the characters from G-Gundam as pilots, then I would say Domon could beat even a Newtype. If you mean strictly pilots, I would have to say Kira because he is basically a Newtype. Other than that, I would go with Garrod from Gundam X.

[Reika Yagami]

You sure very knowledgeable Kusanagi-san going to watched Mobile Suit Gundam. Oh yes. I have to tell something really good. Gundam Fighters like Domon and others were very skilled pilots than 5 Gundam pilots like Heero, Duo, Trowa, Quatre, and Wufei. In my humble opinion Domon Kasshu is far better than Kira, Amuro, and Heero, besides Gundam Fighter pilots were truely high performance than ordinary pilots and the cockpit were using their own mind and to body their own will.

[SGI]

In the UC universe probally the most powerful pilot was Yazan Gable, he could stand his own and provide a very dangerous rival for even Char and Camile.

[Shinigami Ichigo]

Is Yazan the guy in the beginning of ZZ? If so, how could he go from such a formidable opponent to such a joke to even an amateur like Judau?

I also think Domon could beat any Newtype, because of the sheer speed of his movements, but he is not technically a pilot (in my opinion).

[SGI]

Yeah that's Yazan. I was absolutely baffled at his transformation into such a joke. My only theory is that he incurred some brain damage when his MS blew up O.o Even though we all know it was really just bad writing.

[Shinigami Ichigo]

I think that he was just trying to make Judau different from Kamille and Amuro, at least at first.

[SGI]

Yeah true, but it seemed more that they were trying to apeal to a different age bracket.

[Shinigami Ichigo]

I guess it was futile, since it ended up totally different in the end.

[飛竜]

In the UC universe probally the most powerful pilot was Yazan Gable, he could stand his own and provide a very dangerous rival for even Char and Camile.
I agree there Don. He may be a great threat against A.E.U.G. in the battlefield, but Yazan has became defeat from Camille having Zeta Gundam use the Hyper Long Beam Saber. I did remember that Yazan barely escape than getting kill from the hands of Zeta.

[Reika Yagami]

I also think Domon could beat any Newtype, because of the sheer speed of his movements, but he is not technically a pilot (in my opinion).
Yes I could agree of that Shinigami-san. Domon Kasshu can beat any pilot especially Kira Yamato. ^_~

[Shinigami Ichigo]

How would you rate the coordinators of SEED against Newtypes?

[Char The Red Comet]

Lets se a newtype has*taeks dep bref*:
2 to 4 secons negative reaction time (wich mens that they olrede nou wat yore goin to do before yo doit!!)
the abiliti to sens others
som have the abeliti to mentale asult peope(levig them comatose ore catatonic)
they can inmobilase people in batel (this is usuale refered as Prechur)
they can understan an grasp the basics of somtig comples olmost instenle (hens y they can pilot wit no prior expirions)
they can comunicate wit the sols of thos ho dae (in som ocasion usig them to make surten Mobile Suits invinsibel this is sen in Z an ZZ)
an last but not lest they can parsiale control Mobil Suits ecuped wif a Phicomu sistem wif ther thots an use the Funnels which can care aut the dreaded multi-directional all-range atac som funnels can generate wat is none as the beam barrier (wich protecs agas bof beam an combensional weapons)

Coordinators have:
icres inteliges which alaus them to olmost instenle tune ther Mobile Suits fore optimal performens
som can sens other people
those that poses the SEED abelite gane a reaction time of 0 wen activated
they can controle the DRAGUN sitem (lic funnels but larger makin them not as agil an a biger target)(not sure but i thic that no Draguns canot produr a beam barrier)

I give this one to the Newtypes
(forgive the spelig)

[Shinigami Ichigo]

But there must be some situations where the ability to see the future doesn't really help, due to lack of reaction time. I actually think that the top coordinators could handle mid-level newtypes, and even some top ones (for instance, I tend to think that Kira could handle Judau and possibly Kamille). Genetic engineering is a wondrous thing.

[Char The Red Comet]

negative reactio tame mens that they react at a maen bagalen sped (not sloer)
in other words a reaction of negateve 3 is cuecu dan 0 thats wat maks Newtypes so pawer ful (they thont rele se the futur in the U.C era thi is stateb bae Amuro in the final episods of the oreginal seris)
Edite:
But a cordinater laec Kira shud hold his one ages the mitel levi newtypes
and mang to defit the loer level ones laec Saela but Amuro Char or Kamille (in his final stage) wold make cuek work of aneone

[White Tiger X]

I really like Gundam SEED. haven't seen gundam SEED destiny yet.

[Reika Yagami]

I have some theory about of Newtypes. They can senses things even at far, they can grow stronger day by day unlike coordinators, having use newtype powers even the weapon especially Judau using Double Zeta's Hi Mega Cannon with the full power to kill Haman Karn seriously and Camille's Zeta Gundam weapon Beam Saber into Hyper Beam Saber when he fought Yazan Gable to slice into half, they are using an ability to freeze them on a certain time called Pressure a psychic force and very formiddable attack I think coordinators don't have, and use the Psychomu System especially the pilots like Char, Haman, and Amuro, and have deadly newtype attacks like Usso using the Wings Of Light such a destructive weapon against multiple foes.

[Shinigami Ichigo]

Well, that is why I distinguish between regular coordinators, and Kira. He is the ONLY pilot I could see competing seriously with the higher levl newtypes. I mean, he might as well BE a newtype. I am sure you all saw how godlike the Strike-Freedom was. I can't think of any UC mech that has that versatile an arsenal, and the mecha can make up for some deficiencies as a pilot, can't it? For example, Kamille in a GM would be WORTHLESS compared to almost any other newtype in the Zeta.

[Char The Red Comet]

Newtyps have mobile suit that can rival an surpas the Stric-Freedom
http://www.animeforum.com/uploads/RX-93-2r.jpgmi poit Amurou's Hi Nu Gundam
an in sher pawer the ZZFA surpase the Freedomhttp://www.animeforum.com/uploads/FA-010A1.jpg
an versatilite belogs to the Victore 2 Buster Assaut Gundam(not to mention its Wings Of Light)http://www.animeforum.com/uploads/lm314v25.jpg
i mae opinon ani of thes macens can icul or surpas the Freedom

[Shinigami Ichigo]

Keep in mind also, that when Kira fights, he fights not to kill, which is MUCH more difficult than just wiping out everyone (also mentioned in Gundam Wing: Endless Waltz). Also, Kira has survived TWO full-scale wars, in which he had to take on TWO armies in each. I am not saying necessarily that he would win against someone like Amuro, but given the ease with which Char was defeated, I think Kira could give Amuro a fight. Especially with his Strike-Freedom and its DRAGOON system (to go against Amuro's funnels).

[Char The Red Comet]

Keep in mind also, that when Kira fights, he fights not to kill, which is MUCH more difficult than just wiping out everyone (also mentioned in Gundam Wing: Endless Waltz). Also, Kira has survived TWO full-scale wars, in which he had to take on TWO armies in each. I am not saying necessarily that he would win against someone like Amuro, but given the ease with which Char was defeated, I think Kira could give Amuro a fight. Especially with his Strike-Freedom and its DRAGOON system (to go against Amuro's funnels).
I neve sed Kira cud not give a newtype a good fight(it wod be intrestig to se a batel betuen Amuro's Hi Nu Gundam an Kira's Strik-Freedom to se hau much Kira last)

[Shinigami Ichigo]

I guess in my argument, I basically said Kira in that mech could beat any other Newtype, didn't I?

[飛竜]

I think so too, well Kira could manage against top-level Newtypes especially Amuro and others. I was thinking if Strike Freedom against a massive killer fighting machine like the V2 Gundam Assult Buster, it might come an interesting idea that DRAGOON system versus Wings Of Light according to Reika said.

[Shinigami Ichigo]

I have to say that I only saw a little less than half of V Gundam, so I can't compare those mechs to the ones I have seen. Do you think Garrod could beat any of the guys from Wing?

[飛竜]

Yeah. The Gundam Double X is mass of destructive Mobile Suit can destroy anything. Can be possible to wipe any foes like the 5 Gundam pilots. Wing Zero Custom's Twin Buster Rifle against Gundam DX's Twin Satellite Cannon would be a good battle. When I see the series of Gundam X, found something there would be most powerful MS than Wing Zero Custom from Heero's. I t can destroy the whole colony, even the one planet to another.

Hey Shinigami. Do you think Master Asia's, Master Gundam against the 5 Gundam guys from Gundam Wing?

[Shinigami Ichigo]

I would take any top pilot (Shuffle Alliance and gang) over any other Gundam pilot, newtype or no. Their speed is just too great to counter.

[Reika Yagami]

Have you talked about Gundam DX's Twin Satellite Cannon, Masaru? I found that it can destroy the Colony Laser since it has with the G-Falcon but I do not remembering that episode. ~_~

Fortunately Master Asia could be easily be anyone even the Newtype female Haman Karn the pilot Quebeley has doesn't stand a chance. Don't you all agree? ^^;;

[Shinigami Ichigo]

Yes, but he got his butt kicked by Domon already, so he is disqualified :p Now, if you are talking Master Asia in his peak? Totally different argument.

[飛竜]

Yes, but he got his butt kicked by Domon already, so he is disqualified :p Now, if you are talking Master Asia in his peak? Totally different argument.
Indeed. To be honest. Master Asia was killed by Domon's Bakunetsu God Finger that make him bind and crush into knock out.

Have you talked about Gundam DX's Twin Satellite Cannon, Masaru? I found that it can destroy the Colony Laser since it has with the G-Falcon but I do not remembering that episode. ~_~

Fortunately Master Asia could be easily be anyone even the Newtype female Haman Karn the pilot Quebeley has doesn't stand a chance. Don't you all agree? ^^;;
Maybe. But Haman Karn was been killed from Judau Ashta that ZZ Gundam sliced Qubeley by Hyper Beam Saber into smithereens.

[animeadmirer]

Personally, I think the ace pilots who manage to keep surviving multiple battles and still keep coming back for more are the ones to fear. So many of the Gundam pilots in any universe go through at least one near-death experience and come back stronger than ever.

[Shinigami Ichigo]

Well, there is always instances where natural ability overcomes any amount of experience. The G fighters could beat any pilot in a battle, simply based on their differences in skill.

[Reika Yagami]

I agree. Most of them having ride the cockpit that can use their own free will using their own bodies as weapons. The best cockpit would be from the series of G Gundam than any normal cockpits from other series.

[Shinigami Ichigo]

Well, any advantage gained by having the cockpit from G Gundam would only really apply to the characters from that series. This is also true of the cockpits in series like Zeta. I think it would be highly amusing to see for instance Domon piloting the Nu Gundam against Char in the Gundam Spiegel.

[zodiak]

i would not pick the g gundam cock pit because you feel the pain that the gundam feels. yeah...... that would hurt. The zeta gundam cock pits are the best becasue of the 360 angle view.

[Reika Yagami]

Well, any advantage gained by having the cockpit from G Gundam would only really apply to the characters from that series. This is also true of the cockpits in series like Zeta. I think it would be highly amusing to see for instance Domon piloting the Nu Gundam against Char in the Gundam Spiegel.
I can't wait to see Char can pilot Gundam Spiegel and Domon can pilot the Nu Gundam. I wish if Shinn Asuka can pilot V2 Gundam Assult Buster than Destiny Gundam. (no offense)

[Shinigami Ichigo]

But that cockpit is only good if you are proficient at actual piloting. I think for beginners, the G Gundam cockpit is the best, because there is less to learn to do. Basic movements are directly translated.

[Reika Yagami]

The cockpits from G Gundam were all no ordinary besides, for advanced pilots the 360 cockpit of Z Gundam is not bad unless it his/her manuvering skills to move the MS one and other.

[Shinigami Ichigo]

It just seems to me like floating in a 360 degree viewscreen would be totally confusing. At least with the Trace System you get to essentially use your own eyes.

[飛竜]

But that cockpit is only good if you are proficient at actual piloting. I think for beginners, the G Gundam cockpit is the best, because there is less to learn to do. Basic movements are directly translated.
Yeah. That would be most certain. Sometimes the 360 pilot cockpit is quite complicated, thus only skill pilots can master that cockpit.

i would not pick the g gundam cock pit because you feel the pain that the gundam feels. yeah...... that would hurt. The zeta gundam cock pits are the best becasue of the 360 angle view.
The cockpit from Gundam Fighters can possibly have pain, but any cockpit can be damaged to the MS from every parts. And what about the that normal cockpit and etc. eh, each damage to the part of your MS cannot been used especially weapons. Unlike the cockpit of Mobile Trace System, you will use of your body have 5 senses like the human does.

[Char The Red Comet]

I wod personale chos a 360 angle view Psyco-frame cock pit (if i jad the abeliti to us it
considerig onle newtype can) because i cud control the mobil suit basic muvemets wif mai maid and the funnels

[飛竜]

I wod personale chos a 360 angle view Psyco-frame cock pit (if i jad the abeliti to us it
considerig onle newtype can) because i cud control the mobil suit basic muvemets wif mai maid and the funnels
But, I thought the ability of Psycho Frame is only use by pure Newtypes and not Cyber Newtypes. Actually the Psycho Frame was used by Char which rides Sazabi and Amuro which rides Nu Gundam.

[Reika Yagami]

It just seems to me like floating in a 360 degree viewscreen would be totally confusing. At least with the Trace System you get to essentially use your own eyes.
i totally agree of that Shiningami-san, Trace System will be much suitable for beginners and some skilled people can ride that awesome cockpit. ^^

[Shinigami Ichigo]

The best thing to say is that the two cockpits are designed for drastically different kinds of people. More athletic people are for trace, and the regular one is for the more cerebral people. At least that is how I see it.

[Char The Red Comet]

Hey i bin wondering y is ther so litel appreciation for the U.C era Gundam's I personaly consider them the best

[Shinigami Ichigo]

In this thread, it gets alot of props. Personally, I agree it is the best, if for the simple reason that the UC is the most developed. It is not really fair to include all the other Gundam series and lump them together as "AU" Gundam shows. I mean, they are all drastically different, so they will appeal to a broader audience.

[Reika Yagami]

yeah, most of the technologies from U.C. era were very awesome than any centuries. btw Shinigami-san. have seen the picture of Shiho Hahnenfuss?

[Shinigami Ichigo]

I don't believe I am familiar with that character. Should I? Very interesting name to say the least :)

[Reika Yagami]

i understand Shinigami-san, but i was thought about you were a Gundam Universe fan.... ^^;

does anybody played Mobile Suit Gundam SEED: Never Ending Tomorrow?

[Shinigami Ichigo]

I should differentiate myself more between fan and otaku. I don't quite get up to "otaku-ness", mostly because I got turned on to One Piece just before I did.

I have not played the SEED game, but I hear it bites big-time. I wish they would bring some of the "G-Generation" games to America (SD Gundams are awesome).

Has anyone seen the SD Gundam mini series? Hilarious stuff, especially SD Gundam Gaiden (the one where they are in an RPG).

[Reika Yagami]

I have not played the SEED game, but I hear it bites big-time. I wish they would bring some of the "G-Generation" games to America (SD Gundams are awesome).
yeah i agree. i love the SD Gundam G Generation F and F.I.F. game. the game system were unique having the character's levels into rank like in the millitary except for others like Char, Haman, Revil, Valder, Adin, and others who are in special rank that are not level up. my fave was Phoenix Gundam having some special MAP Weapon called Burning Fire. ^^

[FLASH-X]

I agree, here in india gundam based games are real craze now a days by the my favourate g.dam charecter in game is doublezeta.

[chohakkaiz_baby09]

ONe thing for sure, Shinn is such a JERK!! really!!! He's bugging me off!!!

[SGI]

Aaah the SD Gundam series. I have SD Gundam MkI,II and III. Although quite honestly SD Gundam III (The samurai one) seemed like a very half arsed attempt to cash in on SD Gundam Model kits.

[Shinigami Ichigo]

I haven't seen them in a long while. Know where I can get them, since I am pretty sure there is no American license? It is a shame that they attached "SD" to that God-awful series "SD Gundam Force".

[Char The Red Comet]

Yo just remained ed me of something som wat related
Chibi mechas http://page.freett.com/ryuuouzi/icon.html ther are a fue Gundas in ther

Edit: has eneone her played the Super Robot Wars games a lot af Gundas appier in this games

[Reika Yagami]

Aaah the SD Gundam series. I have SD Gundam MkI,II and III. Although quite honestly SD Gundam III (The samurai one) seemed like a very half arsed attempt to cash in on SD Gundam Model kits.
eh really? i just got an action figure of SD Musha Gundam Mk. II, when i was 10. ^^;

I haven't seen them in a long while. Know where I can get them, since I am pretty sure there is no American license? It is a shame that they attached "SD" to that God-awful series "SD Gundam Force".

*nod* *nod* yup!

[Shinigami Ichigo]

I know we have spent most of the time talking about what is the best Gundam series, but which one do you feel is the worst? I am not sure you can find one worse than SD Gundam force, but you never know http://animeforum.com/images/smilies/tongue.gif

[SGI]

Well apart from SD Gundam force I think the worst is Gundam Wing. The series was just awfully written and had such poor characters that it just ended up being a big preach fest for "total pacifism".

[Char The Red Comet]

Well apart from SD Gundam force I think the worst is Gundam Wing. The series was just awfully written and had such poor characters that it just ended up being a big preach fest for "total pacifism".
Ditto i agree Don SGI


Sou has eneone her played the Super Robot Wars games a lot af Gundas appier in this games?

[Shinigami Ichigo]

Doesn't SEED follow that model fairly closely? For me, the worst after Force is probably Wing (though I only saw half of it) or 0080 (just too boring for my taste).

[Char The Red Comet]

Trust us Shinigami Ichigo dot finic Wing youre better off as for 0080 i personaly liked it thou i still say ther shud had bin a longer battle bituin the RX-78NT1 Gundam NT1 Alex an the MS-18E Kämpfer

[Reika Yagami]

Well apart from SD Gundam force I think the worst is Gundam Wing. The series was just awfully written and had such poor characters that it just ended up being a big preach fest for "total pacifism".
thats very true. somehow the series of Gundam Wing can be different plot and got having some end of pacifism. it is similar as SEED Destiny some peace treatment. ^^;

[NecroGate]

all i hav to say i say all the gundam series from gundam to ect. even the latest one gundam seed destinty astray

[Char The Red Comet]

So people ho tho you thik is the worst Gundam pilot?

[Shinigami Ichigo]

If by Gundam pilot, you mean lead character, then I go with Shiro Amada from 08th. Just don't think he could cut it against the likes of even Heero, Garrod, or Kou.

[Char The Red Comet]

I mean ane person ho has piloted a gundam they thot need to be the lead character
Emma(thi is just an example im not sayg that shes a bad pilot) fore example she pilot a Gundam but isent the lead character

[Shinigami Ichigo]

Ah. I think I gotta go with either of the pilots under Shiro from 08th.

[SGI]

Fa Yuuri, i'm so amazed she survived TWO Wars. She seemed to be absolutely hopeless as a pilot. And obnoxious to boot.

[Shinigami Ichigo]

But does she technically count as Gundam pilot? I mean, as far as I remember, all she ever pilots are the generic, useless MS on the Argama.

[SGI]

I do believe at one point she spent a few minutes in Zeta.. if that counts XD

[Shinigami Ichigo]

Yea, it does get hard sometimes to determine how long you have to be at the controls to be considered a pilot. If any amount of time in the cockpit qualifies you, then what about Tiffa from Gundam X? http://animeforum.com/images/smilies/tongue.gif

[Char The Red Comet]

if she moved the Gundam it count

[Demon eyes]

NOOOOOO!!! way Gundam Wing is the best gundam series ever (than seed)

[zodiak]

hey anyone build the gundam models. If so do you make them custom. Right now i am in the middle of making a artic Kampfer. Pretty cool. When im done i'll put the pics up.

[choasking]

i agree with necro gate and the best gundam series are all of them hand's down

[NecroGate]

All the Gundam are Excellent Series But mostly some of them at the end, ended bad; very bad

[Char The Red Comet]

Someone please educate thes people y wing is a pathetic series compared to other Gundam series epesiale Z,V an ∀ Gundam

hey anyone build the gundam models. If so do you make them custom. Right now i am in the middle of making a artic Kampfer. Pretty cool. When im done i'll put the pics up.So zodiak your making a Kampfer i resently finished a Kampfer an a Hyaku Shiki models

[NecroGate]

Go GW,GWEW, GX, GS,GSD, G0080,G0083

YEAH THEY HELLA TIGHT

[zodiak]

Don SGI
Please educate thes people y wing is pathetic series compared to othe Gundam series epesiale Z,V an ∀ Gundam

i agree with you about wing gundam. It was to boring and to gay. I didn't like the mobile suits at all.

[Qeeun]

I was not a fan of Gundam Wing but loved Gundam Seed

[Someguy0715]

i really havent seen many Gundam series but Gundam Wing is still a good series although there are better ones, still u gotta give them credit for giving people something to like and sit in front of the T.V. mindlesly watching that