ARX-7 Arbalest Vs Freedom Gundam

[The Governator]

ok hears sommit thats been buggin me, would ARX-7 Arbalest be able to beet Freedom Gundam, ive never seen seed but its highly rated so i picked that one.
Personally i think Arbalest would win bein a smaller faster target it could get up close also it has a lambda drive wich are a very dangerous wepon

[Zellianne Zettle]

Are You Kidding me??? Kira would just Pass by Arbalest, Freedom is faster than any known Gundam from Other Gundam Universes... Probably the only thing that rival's Freedom's speed is Destiny, but there's Strike Freedom, Freedom's Upgrade to counter that, besides, Freedom has High Manuever Aerial Tactics, which means, Freedom could sustain Flight, and besides..... Freedom has infinite Energy... look at it's Reactor in comparison to Wing Zero's...

Freedom:ultracompact nuclear fission reactor, power output rated at 8826 kW
Wing Zero: ultracompact nuclear fusion reactor, power output rated at 3891kW
In case you don't understand, Freedom has DOUBLE the firepower of WingZero!
And We're not talking about Strike-Freedom Yet, Since it has a Fusion reactor 3x the power output of Freedom. so that's 3x8826 kW. So stop this nonsense okay...

[The Governator]

LOOK! i said FREEDOM not wing zero or destiny dont i repet dont bring gundams that were not includid you BAKA!

[Zellianne Zettle]

Well, unless you're dumb, I stated that it's finished the moment you posted it, Freedom wins.PERIOD. I compared WingZero and Freedom's STATS AND FREEDOM EVEN HAS 2x the output of WingZero, so what, Want a demonstration of what the Freedom could do?
It took out 25 MS and 3 Ships in TWO MINUTES!

[MistaCloudStrife]

I don't know... In FMP there's something called the "Lamba Driver"... This power can vary from a basic (might be)impenitrable shield to killing anything and everything you want just by thought... So potential-wise... Arbalest and the pilot win... Just comparing the mechas, the Freedom would obviously win... Obviously... OBVIOUSLY... Lol... Just wanted to make sure everyone reads that... OBBVVVIIIOUSSLLLLYYYY... Kay, I'm done.

[Zellianne Zettle]

But Newtypes>>>Whisphered Anyday, Newtypes could stirfry a Human's Brain if they want to, and Kira's a Newtype... PERIOD

[MistaCloudStrife]

Sorry but I have to disagree with you... Whispered have more potential... Don't make me repeat myself... If they're matured enough they could be able to destroy anything they wanted by just thinking it... It doenst matter how genetically enhanced you are... If you can get destroyed by someone who can just think, "I want you dead" and you die... Then....

Newtype <<<<<< Whispered

[Zellianne Zettle]

Nope, The Whispered thing is just an overbluffed ability like Magekyou Sharingan... And In TSR, It does not even WORK so shut up!THE LAMBDA DRIVER CANT EVEN DO **** AGAINST GATES!

[MistaCloudStrife]

o.O Overbluffed like the Mangekyou Sharingan... o.O;; LOL! I never thought it was all that great in the first place.. Lol...

Please don't make me go against Kira and the Freedom, because to tell you the truth I like em... But I'm saying right now...

If a whispered and a newtype were to be maxxed out in potential, a Whispered would win...

And anyways, this is about the arbalest and freedom... and I already gave my opinion on that... =P

Oh and don't tell me to shut up... -_- Thats immature... take the high road and BACK UP YOUR IDEAS instead of acting like a child...

EDIT: Just fixed some stuff... o.O When I try to type fast my spaces go in the wrong place...

[The Governator]

Well, unless you're dumb, I stated that it's finished the moment you posted it, Freedom wins.PERIOD. I compared WingZero and Freedom's STATS AND FREEDOM EVEN HAS 2x the output of WingZero, so what, Want a demonstration of what the Freedom could do?
It took out 25 MS and 3 Ships in TWO MINUTES!
well the lambda drive basicly gives the mech the same power as the wisperd and it as the ability to pull an M9 Gernsback to its corecomponents so the pilot would just think that and boom freedoms a plie of gundanium and electronics on the floor so i dont think it would be that quick

[Zellianne Zettle]

ACTING LIKE A CHILD HUH... In TSR, It never happened that Sousuke NEVER managed to Destroy Gates AT POINTBLANK WHILE USING THE LAMBDA DRIVER. AND SOUSUKE'S NOT A WHISPHERED IF HE IS, THE TWINS WOULD'VE DIED A LONG TIME AGO!

[The Governator]

no but ive seen FMP, so i do know what im talkin about, have you seen FMP?

[MistaCloudStrife]

It took out 25 MS and 3 Ships in TWO MINUTES! You know, if any Mobile Suit had the meteor system and a good pilot I think they could do the same... o.O... All you haveto do is wait for the system to lock on... then... *click* Kaboom!


EDIT: I don't think you're reading what I type... If the whispered potential is maxxed out they would PWN any genetically enhanced human... Why are you bringing up any names from thses animes when I'm speaking in general??

[Zellianne Zettle]

well the lambda drive basicly gives the mech the same power as the wisperd and it as the ability to pull an M9 Gernsback to its corecomponents so the pilot would just think that and boom freedoms a plie of gundanium and electronics on the floor so i dont think it would be that quick Freedom is not made of Gundanium...lol who gave you the Idea that it was made of Gundanium alloy. Freedom is made With PHASE SHIFT ARMOR, oh and It's latest Incarnation has a BEAM SHIELD+ FUNNELS

[Zellianne Zettle]

You know, if any Mobile Suit had the meteor system and a good pilot I think they could do the same... o.O... All you haveto do is wait for the system to lock on... then... *click* Kaboom! But that's not METEOR+FREEDOM... It's just Freedom...Have you not watched ep. 35

[The Governator]

well because its called a gundam, i havnt seen gundam seed, abd i dont really want to also dont doublr post, use the edit button

[Zellianne Zettle]

no but ive seen FMP, so i do know what im talkin about, have you seen FMP? Yes from the FIRST SERIES THROUGH THE SECOND RAID!

[Zellianne Zettle]

You know, if any Mobile Suit had the meteor system and a good pilot I think they could do the same... o.O... All you haveto do is wait for the system to lock on... then... *click* Kaboom!


EDIT: I don't think you're reading what I type... If the whispered potential is maxxed out they would PWN any genetically enhanced human... Why are you bringing up any names from thses animes when I'm speaking in general?? SO... It's originally the ARBALEST VS THE FREEDOM GUNDAM(WHICH FREEDOM?)

[The Governator]

god isnt there just a Freedom Gundam

[Zellianne Zettle]

well because its called a gundam, i havnt seen gundam seed, abd i dont really want to also dont doublr post, use the edit button Uhuh, now I can Brand you, Winger First Class, GUndams are not always made of Gundanium heck, Gundam MkII was made of Luna-Titanium...lol

[MistaCloudStrife]

Yeah then why are you ignoring my "They can destroy anything through thought" thing... Why don't you counter that? What does a Newtype have that can counter that? Immunities to the common cold? Ablility to withstand heat? What can possibly counter being destroyed by thought?

[Zellianne Zettle]

Yeah then why are you ignoring my "They can destroy anything through thought" thing... Why don't you counter that? What does a Newtype have that can counter that? Immunities to the common cold? Ablility to withstand heat? What can possibly counter being destroyed by thought? OMG....
You don't get it do you... What you have been talking about mr. is about Coordinators... Newtypes are Psychicly Evolved Humans, far...far different from a Coordinator..And You don't even know what you're talking about... Whispereds came from the original concept of a NEWTYPE. Watch Gundam X and UC Gundam to comprehend more...lol

[[BlackDeath]]

Oh why, why can't it be the ZGMF-X20A instead of the X10A! I would go with Freedom for all the abilities Kira has, new-type, seed etc, etc whatever they're all called.

[Zellianne Zettle]

god isnt there just a Freedom Gundam There are two Freedoms:Freedom Gundam from SEED and Strike-Freedom from Destiny, The Name Strike in Strike Freedom is just aesthetic...

[MistaCloudStrife]

Okay... what I just saw right now is "Dodging of my Questions"...

It doesn't matter whether or not it was made from Gundam or whatnot... What we were talking about is which is stronger... The original isn't always stronger... So cmon... tell we what a newtype can do against a whispered's "Thought Destruction" thing...

[Zellianne Zettle]

Oh why, why can't it be the ZGMF-X20A instead of the X10A! I would go with Freedom for all the abilities Kira has, new-type, seed etc, etc whatever they're all called. That's because the guy doesn't know the difference between Newtypes and Coordinators...lol

[[BlackDeath]]

Oh and to counter Mista's "destroy everything with thought" since it's the Arbalest and Sosuke is the pilot why doesn't he use the Lamda Driver more ofter? It's because he can't use it efficiently, whilst Kira can use his abilities at will.

[MistaCloudStrife]

Ahh.... but read back my friend... I said, "If a whispered and Newtypes potential is maxxed out" I never said Sousuke or Kira... AHA!

[[BlackDeath]]

Well Sosuke is the only one it reads as the pilot so far, he is the designated pilot of the machine and it appears it will be that way permanently.

[Zellianne Zettle]

Well, They have "thought of destruction" too, Why? Because Newtypes are the Whispered, in Gundam Terms, In UC Gundam, They can Make Their MS have an INVINCIBLE AURA IN WHICH THE GUNDAM COULD JUST RUN DOWN ANOTHER MS, THEY COULD DESTROY MATERIAL THINGS IMAGINE A NEWTYPE GIRL(ELPEO PLE) Destroy a PSYCHO GUNDAM(3x the size of a normal MS) with her own powers.... The whispered concept was just borrowed from the Newtype concept.... lol

[MistaCloudStrife]

Oh I already said who'd win with the mechas... After my first post, I was just talking about Whispered and Newtypes in general... o.O;; Yeah I know... I went off topic... =P My bad...

[Zellianne Zettle]

that's because you were talking about Coordinators, not Newtypes... The Newtype concept was the framework of the Whispered concept, Newtypes are essentially more powerful as they are oftenly quoted as the Jedi of Japan, because of their healing, and destructive powers...lol and Amuro in CCA could Destroy a whole Asteroid with just his NT Powers...

[[BlackDeath]]

Haro would own all those f00s!

Well since Mista said it may not be their current pilots then we have to compare the specs i guess. And still Freedom is more advanced, it has more firepower for one, it can fight in more atmospheres without having to have a add-on, far superior weaponry, it's reactor provides as good as infinite running power. Arbalest does have good abilites also, though its movement is more restricted than that of the Freedom and in battle mobility plays a huge factor.

[Zellianne Zettle]

Yup. HiMAT is no joke because it could do sustained flight at supersonic speeds and the Maneuverability of Freedom would make Arbalest look like a noob marksman
http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b97/clowtrigger/61er.gif
That's the Freedom Gundam's HiMAT

[Cantelope-sama]

Kira is a newtype?!! I thought he was some sissy coordinator. They don't have newtypes in Seed do they? No...just LAME coordinators. OOH!! I'M SMART!! HA!! Puh-leez.

I've only watched a tiny but of SEED and got sick of it. And I've never seen FMP (Although everyone says I should.) Ability wise, I guess these Whispered? The whole thought of destruction thing? Yes, I'd agree with Mista on this one, because if they could use this power at will, BAM!!!! Newtype = Gone. And Newtypes can't do anything against that!! I don't think hearing some funny sound in their head will save them from being blown to smithereens. And since when can Newtypes make their suits invincible? Oh that's right...THEY NEVER COULD.

Suit wise, I think Freedom would win, since it's so majorly overpowered(too bad it's piloted by the biggest loser in mecha history).

[MistaCloudStrife]

Yeah... I actually thought Kira was a huge wuss too... but then I saw Destiny and all my negative thoughts of Kira went to Shinn.... He's a little wuss... Kira is crazy in Destiny now... He reminds me of Kenshin... He just goes around chopping all of the limbs off of all these good pilot's mechas without killing them... Shinn is just a stupid little boy... Kira and Athrun at least TRY to see the bigger picture in Seed... but Shinn... -_- Hes a dissapontment... Oh I'm on episode 26 on destiny... I just got up to episode 45, so I'll prolly watch the rest soon...

[clowtrigger]

Kira is a newtype?!! I thought he was some sissy coordinator. They don't have newtypes in Seed do they? No...just LAME coordinators. OOH!! I'M SMART!! HA!! Puh-leez.

I've only watched a tiny but of SEED and got sick of it. And I've never seen FMP (Although everyone says I should.) Ability wise, I guess these Whispered? The whole thought of destruction thing? Yes, I'd agree with Mista on this one, because if they could use this power at will, BAM!!!! Newtype = Gone. And Newtypes can't do anything against that!! I don't think hearing some funny sound in their head will save them from being blown to smithereens. And since when can Newtypes make their suits invincible? Oh that's right...THEY NEVER COULD.

Suit wise, I think Freedom would win, since it's so majorly overpowered(too bad it's piloted by the biggest loser in mecha history).
Nope, He's not even a sissy coordinator, He's the project of Dr Ulen Hibki called... the Ultimate Coordinator. In SEED, it's vaguely implied that there are Newtypes. But in Destiny, Kira does this....

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b97/clowtrigger/13lz.gif

[MistaCloudStrife]

Hey hey now...

Kira is still cool... He went in between Orb with the Alliance and the Minerva... twice! And he stopped like... All the good pilots from fighting... and he totally messed up Athrun's saviour... Hmm... I think that's where I stopped last time I watched... So I'll watch a few more eps...

I'll leave you with this gif of Freedom from Destiny... and uhh... yeah, I believe this one was from the first encounter between Orb and the Minerva... I think hes in front of the ArchAngel there...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v129/MistaCloudStrife/seed4.gif

[mastercane]

this one is a close, but I think that Freedom would win. Thats how i think it would happen on paper

[[BlackDeath]]

Yeah... I actually thought Kira was a huge wuss too... but then I saw Destiny and all my negative thoughts of Kira went to Shinn.... He's a little wuss... Kira is crazy in Destiny now... He reminds me of Kenshin... He just goes around chopping all of the limbs off of all these good pilot's mechas without killing them... Shinn is just a stupid little boy... Kira and Athrun at least TRY to see the bigger picture in Seed... but Shinn... -_- Hes a dissapontment... Oh I'm on episode 26 on destiny... I just got up to episode 45, so I'll prolly watch the rest soon...HAHA, got that right, Shinn get's worse as the series progress, from episodes 30+ he frankly deserves to be shot... by Athrun, for all his stupid little remarks to him.