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ATOMSK
11-20-2004, 06:26 PM
personally, i don't like it. all these new bands coming out, all sounds the same, and are over hyped by commercials, like "this band is the new wave of music!!" or " the band everyone is talking about!!". although some new bands are ok, such as audioslave and velvet revolver. and i'm getting sick of popular bands that arn't that good. like good charlotte, linkin park, hoobastank, new found glory, etc etc. they cater to teenage anst too much. nirvana, ac/dc, metallica, green day, the offspring, red hot chili peppers, foo fighters, and led zeppelin are much better. if you haven't noticed, i've been talking about rock music the whole time. but don't let that stop you from talking about other styles of music.

Metaldork
11-20-2004, 06:44 PM
I hear what you are saying dude and you're right, people these days do not know what is good rock music anymore. And alot of the bands that you listed inthe begining like Good charlotte and NFG do cater on teenage perspectives.

retro
11-20-2004, 06:48 PM
new music is crap... simple as~

DarkGundamPilot
11-20-2004, 06:48 PM
I hate most of the new music now. For example punk use to be great, then GC came out and everyone thought they were punk. After that bands like Simple Plan and Sum 41 got the label punk or "pop/punk". The worst part, though, is they came out with a "punk" style of clothes (like all that pyramid crap) and people think if they wear it they'll become punk or something.
The only good bands (in my opinion) out now are anti-flag, kittie, slipknot, nfg, and some others.

Now this is just my opinion so don't flame me.

Metaldork
11-20-2004, 06:52 PM
This current music thing is turning poeple into possers man.

ATOMSK
11-20-2004, 07:03 PM
thank goodness someone agrees. yeah, the whole pop/punk thing is really annoying, and it pisses me off sometimes. thankfully, it's died down alot. at least, down here it has.

Metaldork
11-20-2004, 07:30 PM
Yeah, but not in New Jersey it asn't

_hades the wicked
11-20-2004, 08:10 PM
Hahahaha, new music just sucks dude! You know, one day my friend was commenting about Blink 182... Well, I despise them! I said that they are pop, then my friend laughed and said "what the hell are you saying? they are punk!". Man was that hilarious! Blink 182... PUNK?! OMG! Am -I- the one living under a rock or what? XD
Really, I don't use to listen to Led Zeppelin too much, but their music is really good. Ever listened to Steve Vai? Ever listened to Children of Bodom? Cradle of Filth? Blind Guardian? Nightwish? Dir en grey? But oh, well, punk? Well, there is Ramones! They are a good punk band, although I'm not really into punk.
But now really... What plays on the radio/tv... OMG! USHER???!!! GOOD CHARLOTTE???!!! HOOBASTANK???!!! THREE DAYS GRACE???!!! Where the hell is this world going? Where have the good stuff gone? It just disappeared...

*note*
If you read the last few lines and feel the urge to flame me with arguments such as "what? good charlotte rules and you suck, and the music you listen to suck", give me a decent argument, OK? Because technically talking, every band I mentioned is better then the bands I mentioned on the last lines... Better musicians... If you want MY arguments about that, then here:
1. Guitars: Well, I'm not even going to talk about Steve Vai here, because the day that Good Charlotte's guitarist is able to play 10 seconds of one of Vai's solos... Well, then we can even start to think about considerating that...
2. Drums: OK, Thomen Stauch - Blind Guardian's drummer - just can't be compared to any of those low level drummers of any of those last lines bands... It's like comparing the size of a mammoth with that of an ant. His technique and speed is not just the basic easy-to-play-nowadays-punk that you hear... Save Blink, because I have to admit that their drummer is good.
3. Bass: Now get any nowadays punk bassist and compare to Totchi - Dir en grey's bassist. Well, for further reference, listen to Cage or アクロの丘 (Akuro No Oka) and then try to compare...
4. Vocals: People may say this is just relative to tastes, but none of those punk vocalists can make their voices go high and low, like Tarja Turunen - Nightwish - and Hansi Kürsch - Blind Guardian. Go figure.

Again, I'm speaking TECHNICALLY. If you like them... I don't blame you, but I say you should go listen to real music.

Variable_Gunbuster
11-20-2004, 09:27 PM
I myself am very musical (been a guitarist for 3 bands and counting). So I can tell you that the music that's out right now is pretty much crap. I don't wanna talk about music because it's too meaningful to me to argue. But take a close look at what's out there right now, do you see a trend?
are you listening to it because you wanna fit in with others?
Do the lyrics inspire you? or make you feel anything inside?
See it's starting. Uhmmm let me just say this. Don't waste your money propaganda, if you like it then there is no problem, but don't buy music because everyone else is...and also be open minded. You shouldn't stick to just ONE music genre. All genre's have something terrific to offer! You just have to learn where to look.
And in case you were wondering what music I generally listen to?
Well it's underground punk ofcourse.:laugh: I could talk about this forever but then I would start to step on a few toes..and that's not what I want.
oh and Dark Death!!!! Great post man. Intelligent and too the friggin' point. You pointed out a few bands I love. Cheers guy!

_hades the wicked
11-20-2004, 10:12 PM
For us, guitar players, it is so ridiculous to see power chord-ers becoming famous and selling a lot and stuff... It's just stupid to see how I can play a thousand times better than almost any of the guitarists of those bands which play nowadays... I consider that an offence to the people who are buying the albums... The fact that I, who started to learn guitar like, 3 or 4 years ago and can only play a few hours a week, can play better than those guys whose lives is to play the god damned guitar.

Rainb0w
11-20-2004, 10:24 PM
In my opinion I feel that many teenagers these days who think they are rockers know nothing about rock music. Look at recent "best ever" reader's polls in guitar magazines for a fine example, most of the Nu-"Metal" guitarists are up in the top 20 - 30 and the likes of Ritchie Blackmore hardly bear a mention!

Seriously, if anyone wants to take up the guitar and be taken seriously you will need to know the standards set by the likes of David Gilmour, Ritchie Blackmore et al.

For an example of how standards have deteriorated, listen to a Evanescence song and compare the guitar playing to that of Iron Maiden's "The Trooper" or Rainbow's "Kill The King".

Dark_Misery
11-20-2004, 10:35 PM
They either can't sing, or Dance...or Both...

DarkGundamPilot
11-21-2004, 12:50 AM
New "rock" scares me...

Sadako Sumeragi
11-21-2004, 12:49 PM
I no longer pay attention to when people say ,"Hey Emily, try this new band, you'll love it so much!" I was talking to my friend on AIM, and he kept trying to get me to listen to Linkin Park, Korn, and Franz Ferdinand. I don't know if I spelt any of those right, but who cares. Anyway, I really hate it when people talk about bands like Sum 41, Blink 182, etc., and go off on a tangent about how punk they are. If you want to see some real punk, look to the 70s and early 80s. That was the golden age of the genre, and as far as I'm concerned, true punk died out in the 90s, save for a few rare bands here and there. As for current music in general, I love techno and a few songs by U2, and that's it. I also like some other bands that were big in the ninties, but that's it for American music. Foreign music is what I really love.

Variable_Gunbuster
11-21-2004, 11:09 PM
......true punk died out in the 90swrong. If you've followed punk for as long as I have, there is more than a handful of good punk bands out there. Just because they aren't signed doesn't mean they ain't good, besides most punk bands nowadays have the opportunity of getting signed but they refuse to because they don't want a rich guy telling them what to do just to sell money, which means they go "underground" playing to the true fans that know and understand them...more importantly where to find them.:laugh: Ok I'm done for now.......I'll leave now

Pakachu
11-21-2004, 11:15 PM
pop: ...why? why does it even exist?!
hip-hop: ...why? why does it all sound like pop now?!?O_o
Rap:What happened to all the good stuff!?! ...oh yeah, they all died in the mid 90's or got into acting/producing. (R.I.P. Easy E.,Tupac, Biggie.)
Rock: its ok... still prefere classic rock,80's rock and early 90's to the majority of the new stuff. but some of it is pretty good.

recently i been listening mostly to classic rock and old school rap

e||a*f|n|x
11-23-2004, 12:27 AM
well, i think that new generation's music is more softer than the older days. it's obvious because last time the music was like more louder than the latest ones. but from the moral side, the new generation's new music filled with foul words. :D

Innotech
11-23-2004, 01:57 AM
I think Rock began to suck mid 90's with that nu-metal and heavily chord based riffs. There isnt ripping fast lous screaming guitars anymore and I think that is quite sad. Van Halens style is the kind of guiar playing I like. ACDC also. Those 2 bands rock out.
I tend to prefer 70s era classic rock in general though.

Variable_Gunbuster
11-23-2004, 02:09 AM
I think Rock began to suck mid 90's with that nu-metal and heavily chord based riffs. There isnt ripping fast lous screaming guitars anymore and I think that is quite sad. Van Halens style is the kind of guiar playing I like. ACDC also. Those 2 bands rock out.
I tend to prefer 70s era classic rock in general though.Can't forget Led Zeppelin. God I love him...in a musician type of way course...

Innotech
11-23-2004, 02:13 AM
Can't forget Led Zeppelin. God I love him...in a musician type of way course...
Rainbow was really good too.

_hades the wicked
11-23-2004, 09:14 AM
Can't forget Led Zeppelin. God I love him...in a musician type of way course...Him? Led Zeppelin was a band, not a person...

VGMasterShadow
11-23-2004, 09:28 AM
New "rock" scares me...New rock scares the :censored: out of me.

Midnight Kitana
11-23-2004, 11:51 AM
Yeah, most music nowadays suck a**. They all sound the same, lack originality, and are generally overrated by the media.

Punk used to be great but now so many posers are taking control of it. Same goes to rap, which is just crap now and has been for the last several years. I prefer listening to older rock and punk nowadays.

Innotech
11-23-2004, 11:57 AM
The reason I think peoplel ike Velvet Revolver is because aside from Axel Rose, Velvet Revolver is Guns N roses with the Stone Temple Pilots singer, an excellent combination.
Listen to bandsl ike Iron Maiden, ACDC, Van Halen, Jimmy Hendrix, Led Zeppelin, Lynyrd skynyrd for how to really play a guitar. Seriously. I know bands have got talent, I know guitarists can pplay, it just seems to me that people got lazy and want to make music with a minimum of skill required. When my brother, who has played guitar for about 7 months, can play most of the new stuff, thats a sure sign that musical bars need to be raised.
I welcome any band that isnt afraid to wail on that guitar, pick it until the strings squeal and break from the intensity of the music. Put the soul back into Rock and roll!

Eris
11-23-2004, 04:20 PM
There's lots of good concurrent music, although none on the public commercial channels (ie: MTV, record stores etc.)

_hades the wicked
11-23-2004, 04:55 PM
There's lots of good concurrent music, although none on the public commercial channels (ie: MTV, record stores etc.)It depends on the "good music" you're talking about... You can still find lots of good metal music and some good rock, but it's not that much. The difference is that back then, on the 70's and 80's there weren't tons of posers punk-wannabes... There wasn't MTV... There wasn't all the crap that there is today...

Variable_Gunbuster
11-24-2004, 12:12 AM
Him? Led Zeppelin was a band, not a person...oops! whatever he seems like a person to me.....

amuro1
11-24-2004, 01:20 PM
yeah, the new rock scene blows. whatever happened to our nirvanas and our guns n roses?

Metaldork
11-24-2004, 06:30 PM
They died out because people don't want to listen to good Rock music anymore (it's a shame) Everybody wants the crap on MTV, and it pissess me off when people compare old rock to new rock and say that "new rock is better" and it is bull, i smack people in the face when they say that. For punk, i like some punk like the Misfits and The Casualties, and for people who say their Metal/Rock and wear shirts with skulls, and pants with chains one day and then the next day come in with silk pants wearing babyfat wigger cloths and going "Hey i like jay z's new song" i got some words to say to you Ahem.....YOU'RE NOT METAL YOU--*. I don't understand what some people are trying to prove these days by being possers.

*is still cursing

_hades the wicked
11-24-2004, 06:42 PM
The worse is when you see someone with a metal band's t-shirt, then you say the name of a music and they say "I don't know that one", then you say the name of any other music and they say "I don't know that one either", then you ask which ones they know, and all they say is "Ah, that one that is playing on MTV, forgot the name though"... Man do I get pissed off with that...

Holly Strife
04-12-2005, 08:27 PM
I really don't have much to say about the new music that comes out but, People are trying to make a living with their voice lately. Though it makes me wonder how half the people who come out now "How did they even get into this job" I mean..most of them are crap yes. Half the new bands that come out shouldn't even be able to set a single CD in the stores let alone be able to record. So not all the new music that comes out is horrible.

Tiggit
04-12-2005, 08:30 PM
its all rap. all rock. all the same.

Milly
04-13-2005, 06:51 PM
Some of the rappers are getting out of control and they need to calm down a bit. The singers and rock people are okay, I guess. We just need a "good" message for the teen people. Not always about cars, clothes, women (men, too), sex and money.

/Aifa|
04-14-2005, 02:03 AM
Hmm, i miss the days of EMinem controversy in 2000.

cblssms
04-20-2005, 08:28 PM
It's okay... but I mostly listen to anime music lol. Oh yeah! BTW, Happy Birthday ATOMSK!! ^_^

Gjallarhorn
04-20-2005, 10:33 PM
yeah, the new rock scene blows. whatever happened to our nirvanas and our guns n roses?thats because the "rock scene" has been dominated by punk-rock bands and the older bands which are converting to punk-rock, and are comstantly surrounded by pre-teen girls trying to say they are hardcore and have tough lives to deal with. aside from a few bands, American rock is dead.
as for rap, its completely demeaning to both music and society. everyone who gets into rap has the "gangsta" persona, using bad english, swearing their heads off, wearing their pants down to their knees. not only that, but 99% of rap is about [intercourse], drugs, or threatening another rapper. when did music become about threatening to kill people you dont like?

Sakura_jin237
05-17-2005, 02:47 AM
I think it's nice, much better sound graphics (I think that's what they call it right?) than the old days. But sometimes it doesnt have any meanings anymore, it oly talks about sillt things like the three letter word, why cant they talk about decent love, or even to nature or to their country! My father thinks that the music today is not good, since there's no meaning in the songs. And I agree with him, but there are still some that are nice and have meaning.

Deshwitat
05-21-2005, 08:50 AM
Most new bands coming out suck and shouldnt even have a record deal but that doesnt mean you should think all new bands are crap because some are really good

Dunne
07-09-2005, 11:57 PM
Music, Pop, Mainstream; Names to denote a lot of things. When bands come out in toa specific genre they are just that in their catagory. When they go mainstream and are plkayed on radiostations taht are Pop, or mainstream, they loose, their "Uniqueness." Bands in such that a small nitch they came from, they become the "POPNESS" we all hate so pationetly. For thoses that listen while no one else listens, the genre in which the band is in is pure. When you hear it on a station that specializes pop, it is now pop for-eh-vehr (mouths like that of kid in Sandlot) unless you actually catagorize your music properly, unlike most music stores,"try" to do. OS in other words. when music is heard ona station, it is opo, when you only hear of it word of mouth, it stays of its Genre. Pop Bites major Arse. Cut and Print

Marie2007
07-10-2005, 12:04 PM
i think it is still the same i mean we got bands who suck and then bands who dont suck so really i think it is still as crazy in the music biz as ever.