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enigma unit 01
10-07-2004, 08:26 AM
Evangelion or Gundam!, my personal favourite is eva as the mechas are brilliant, the angels are super cool and eva has superior animation and a better storyline, Hideaki Anno needs a pat on the back!
enigma unit 01
10-07-2004, 08:33 AM
Cmn some people, if you were real anime fans you would be on to this poll like a dog on a lampost!
enigma unit 01
10-07-2004, 08:34 AM
Theres whiskey in the jar
enigma unit 01
10-07-2004, 08:36 AM
Evangelion Evangelion Evangelion, tumbling down, tumbling down, tumbling doooown!
mic713
10-12-2004, 06:36 AM
i think gundam is better then eva in some way.....how should i say it.....eva's story is kinda.....weird. and even though some of the gundam story siuck as well. but there are also many good series of gundam~~
enigma unit 01
10-12-2004, 09:21 AM
What do you mean by, 'in some way'!
XxJBxX
10-12-2004, 10:02 AM
Gundam All The Way
While Evangelion is an excellent masterpiece full of religious referance and philisophical themes, I find the socio political climate of the Universal Century in Gundam far more apealing.
Dark_Misery
10-14-2004, 07:34 PM
Gundam!
Sieg_707
10-14-2004, 10:05 PM
Gundam it has to be the best
oddie chan
10-17-2004, 12:25 AM
I have to go with Evangelion... I'm sorry T-T I just couldn't get into Gandam.
Shadow_Wolf
10-17-2004, 12:52 AM
How could you not go Gundam.
gundam, gundam, gundam, gundam, gundam!!!!!!
People have differnt tastes i guess
Yunsung
10-17-2004, 03:54 AM
I prefer Evangelion.
Meiyu_chan
10-17-2004, 11:46 PM
Gundam
Kawaii ^_^
10-18-2004, 08:28 AM
I can't get into Gundam i like EVA better because it just was a great show with drama and comedy and superb mechas.http://animeforum.com/images/smilies/cool.gif
[BlackDeath]
10-19-2004, 08:04 AM
Talk about a double-double post!!! And i see no one is giving justifacation for there answers once again, im not surpirsed anyway. Well i would have to say Evangelion is much better, as the story is so much more complex then i originally thought. But i like the gundam mecha design more as there more creative and unique in there own way, plus the dont need some power cod plugged into there back nor do they have a battery with a life span of 5 and a half mins!
Leo Seta
10-19-2004, 01:27 PM
I like both series for different reasons. I love Evangelion because of it's concentration on the characters and its religious undertones. It has some amazing fight scenes, the evas look sweet and it leaves the viewer thinking. It can also be very funny and still keep its heavy and dark story line. Of course it has it's flaws, like no quality battle between unit-01 and the mass produced evas in EoE... that would of been so cool *sigh*
Gundam will always hold a special place in my heart because it was one of the first animes I ever saw and the mechas are really cool. Wing ZERO in Endless Waltz is soooooo sweet.
I love both series but if I was pushed, I would say Evangelion... you just have to look at my DVD collection to know that!http://animegalleries.net/bbs/images/smilies/laugh.gif
Schneedrache
10-19-2004, 05:37 PM
hated evangalion, but i can watch the entire gundam wing series straight
Miroku4472
10-19-2004, 10:38 PM
Gundam all the way...
Eva had a sense of majesty gundam never obtained. The reallistic yet creative characters drove Eva forward, as did the controversial and well written story. It also had the EVAs themselves, who are some of the best designed mechs in history.
Wildecatsumi002
10-20-2004, 07:52 PM
Eva had a sense of majesty gundam never obtained. The reallistic yet creative characters drove Eva forward, as did the controversial and well written story. It also had the EVAs themselves, who are some of the best designed mechs in history.
I would have to agree with you there, Gil. Eva units are designed alot better then the gundams, but I also like gundam in some ways. Though I must say I like Evangelion more.
TheWickedOne
10-22-2004, 05:44 PM
I like Evangelion over gundam
Straw_hat
10-22-2004, 06:01 PM
evangelion
Female_Hitokiri
10-22-2004, 07:38 PM
Evangelion, of course. It has deep characters, and the plot is very well written.
The Real Osaka
10-24-2004, 12:57 AM
Gundam for me!
random123
10-24-2004, 01:14 AM
evangelion
amuro1
10-25-2004, 03:41 PM
gundam all the way, just like my av, sig, and name
[BlackDeath]
10-27-2004, 07:31 AM
I like both series for different reasons. I love Evangelion because of it's concentration on the characters and its religious undertones. It has some amazing fight scenes, the evas look sweet and it leaves the viewer thinking. It can also be very funny and still keep its heavy and dark story line. Of course it has it's flaws, like no quality battle between unit-01 and the mass produced evas in EoE... that would of been so cool *sigh*
Everything they used in Eva is all based on myth and legend etc...
Deathscythe
10-27-2004, 09:14 AM
Hard choice they both have great things about them both have things which are better than the other which in turn means they each have something worse than the other, I'd say i like Evangelion best for right now though, but that could change i guess i'll think about it some
red storm
10-27-2004, 11:43 AM
Gundam, the battles are way better.
[BlackDeath]
10-27-2004, 11:44 AM
Yes maybe but think about all the things that are related to gundam out there, the many different shows it has and well its legacy you could say! compared to that of evas
Deathscythe
10-27-2004, 05:18 PM
Yes maybe but think about all the things that are related to gundam out there, the many different shows it has and well its legacy you could say! compared to that of evas
mhm too true
Eva has lets see
Neon Genesis Evangelion
End of Evangelion
Death and Rebirth
Evangelion Renewal
Gundam has
Mobile Suit Gundam
G Gundam
Gundam Wing
Gundam Seed
Gundam X
Zeta Gundam
just too name a few heh!
the whole Gundam franchise has a LOT more to offer than Evangelion
Innotech
10-27-2004, 07:01 PM
Evangelion all the freaking way.
Havana
10-27-2004, 07:15 PM
While Evangelion is an excellent masterpiece full of religious referance and philisophical themes, I find the socio political climate of the Universal Century in Gundam far more apealing.
I've seen gundam wing and with the political stuff it was a bit boring
GSeed is good but to many characters die.. and i love the ending song
and other theme songs in this anime. I've never seen evangilion, but
the philisophical themes in any anime i find interesting.
[BlackDeath]
10-29-2004, 05:53 AM
mhm too true
Eva has lets see
Neon Genesis Evangelion
End of Evangelion
Death and Rebirth
Evangelion Renewal
Gundam has
Mobile Suit Gundam
G Gundam
Gundam Wing
Gundam Seed
Gundam X
Zeta Gundam
just too name a few heh!
the whole Gundam franchise has a LOT more to offer than Evangelion
Well thats not many on Evas list and heres the more gundams that you didn't list:
G-Gundam
Gundam (i think this is one?)
Gundam-08th MS Team
Gundam 0079
Gundam 0080
Gundam 0083: Stardust Memory
Gundam F91
Gundam Seed
Gundam Wing
Gundam Wing: Endless Waltz
Gundam X
Gundam ZZ
Mobile Suit Gundam
i dont recommend watching evagelion, too boring. Gundam is like "i want more of it". i realised how boring evagelion was after watching gundam.
gundam:
V Gundam
Gundam SEED Destiny (new one!!!)
gundam:chars counterattack
ones you missed out
gundam 0083 are separated into ova, movie and tv series
gundam 0079 are separated into ova and tv series
Deathscythe
10-30-2004, 08:02 PM
too lazy too right each one of those xD its so.. samey xD lmfao doesnt make sense i know but if you were me.. pretty much everything would make sense O_O if you know what i mean xD lol me either
[BlackDeath]
10-31-2004, 10:02 AM
i dont recommend watching evagelion, too boring. Gundam is like "i want more of it". i realised how boring evagelion was after watching gundam.
gundam:
V Gundam
Gundam SEED Destiny (new one!!!)
gundam:chars counterattack
ones you missed out
gundam 0083 are separated into ova, movie and tv series
gundam 0079 are separated into ova and tv series
My bad, i forgot about destiney and chars counterattck but i didn't know about V Gundam.
i dont know if its out in the US. i got mine imported. V Gundam is abit boring, too many people dying in the series.
shadowanime
10-31-2004, 06:08 PM
I like Evangelion more just for the mecha designs and everything else the show has to offer. Has Gumdam even come close to the brutality in the scene where unit 01 faces unit 04? If it has I haven't seen it.
[BlackDeath]
11-01-2004, 06:36 AM
i dont know if its out in the US. i got mine imported. V Gundam is abit boring, too many people dying in the series.
Well, it sounds interesting already, xD lol.
I like Evangelion more just for the mecha designs and everything else the show has to offer. Has Gumdam even come close to the brutality in the scene where unit 01 faces unit 04? If it has I haven't seen it.
No Gundam hasn't had a scene like that, but i think that the Evas suck, they have a huge power cable attached to their back and a battery that last 5 and a half minutes!
Deathscythe
11-01-2004, 08:14 AM
Well, it sounds interesting already, xD lol.
No Gundam hasn't had a scene like that, but i think that the Evas suck, they have a huge power cable attached to their back and a battery that last 5 and a half minutes!lmao xD omg the Eva's are okay but the Gundams are so much better lol xD V Gundam does sound good with all the death xD lol and yeah no Gundam doesnt have much brutality but its still good xD
V Gundam is that good though. Gundam F91 the movie is definitely good,if any of you guys have seen it.
Bebop
11-02-2004, 05:46 PM
Well both shows bored me to tears but in evangleion the mechs bleed! How cool is that!
animeseishi
11-03-2004, 01:07 AM
gundam wing of course
[BlackDeath]
11-03-2004, 11:45 AM
V Gundam is that good though. Gundam F91 the movie is definitely good,if any of you guys have seen it.
Nope i havn't, so i take it that its pretty good then ^_^
does any body remember those cat thingys that connected to make a gundam like thingy............................................ .................................................. .................................................. .................................................. .............. hmmm id have to go with the eva. almighty eva :awe:
amuro1
11-03-2004, 03:22 PM
c'mon it's gotta be gundam, on for more than 20 years and still goin' strong
Deathscythe
11-03-2004, 03:26 PM
c'mon it's gotta be gundam, on for more than 20 years and still goin' strong
xD and who can argue with that lmao
WHFBeavis
11-03-2004, 03:31 PM
Evangalion is a good show i started watching in japan before i came to america and never really watched gundam and i saw it on the cartoon channel and watched it then i saw that it was on the international channel and i thought it was quite good
DrkFire
11-03-2004, 05:47 PM
i say Evangelion but Gundam is close i liked them both really good but i have only seen Gundam Wing episode 1-4 lol but i've seen most of Evangelion and i liked Evangelion how they can change into like 3 different things
Not into old Evangelion much. I liked the Gundam Wing series better, although it does overshadow a little melancholy shift of mood.
DrkFire
11-03-2004, 05:51 PM
yea they have some really good series on Gundam from what i have heard and read they said like gundam Seed is the best
c'mon it's gotta be gundam, on for more than 20 years and still goin' strong
it is actually its 25th anniversary. 25 years since Gundam was aired, started with MS Gundam which is the very first series (i think) too long ago and i werent even born.
kira yamato89
11-03-2004, 06:32 PM
yeah gundam is better than evangelion,yet i havent seen both shows i along time
yeah gundam is better than evangelion,yet i havent seen both shows i along time
you must be kidding me, your not watching Gundam SEED Destiny
Frozen Tears
11-03-2004, 06:40 PM
The Only Thing Good about either one is the Giant A$$ Robots...oh and Rei but hey thats my Opinion
kira yamato89
11-03-2004, 06:44 PM
point taked
Vandire
11-03-2004, 09:57 PM
I love both of the Anime's, though for me theres really no contest. One of my favorite topics for thought and reflection is human psychology and innate antithesis, and nothing covers that so well as Evangelion, nor does any other Anime series ask so much of the viewer.
The mechas in Eva arent brilliant, but considering they were never intended to really be percieved as such (they *are* human, after all) thats passable, an they do still look cool, especailly Eva-01.
But yeah. Gundam has an amazing political backdrop (politics being another thing i find fascinating...) a good storyline and amazing fightscenes.. but it doesnt really make you think. Because of that, i'd have to say Neon Genesis Evangelion is the definitive winner in my opinion.
[BlackDeath]
11-04-2004, 12:34 PM
Well that was obvious comming from you
kira yamato89
11-04-2004, 08:54 PM
i say gundam hands down & no i wont slap my self in the face
VIPER
11-05-2004, 06:19 PM
yea Gundam Rules WHO HO
you cant beet it so dont try
Kisho
11-05-2004, 06:32 PM
Please. Evangelion had a deep involving story and you fell in love with the characters. You can't say the same about Gundam. Gundam is an overrated piece of rubbish.
VIPER
11-05-2004, 06:34 PM
yea your right lol
Gundam overrated master piece!!! so how can the gundam franchise survive so long then,whats it 25 years, whilst evangelion came out in 1994 or 1996 in japan afterwards we say bye bye to it.
Kisho
11-05-2004, 06:48 PM
A good series ends. Gundam keeps going because of 10 year old fanboys.
well what anime is THE BEST in japan, of course GUNDAM and always been.
Kisho
11-05-2004, 06:58 PM
How is it the best in japan?
All the TV viewers turn to watch Gundam
Kisho
11-05-2004, 07:07 PM
Really. How did you obtain such info? Your 10 year old fanboy dude of knowledge?
Xian Pu
11-05-2004, 07:09 PM
So, chob, do you just pull random 'facts' out of your butt? Or has rabid fanboydom blinded you to the fact that Gundam isn't that hot? Sure there's ten different variations of the show, but it doesn't make it any better. I mean, take Evangelion for example. Sure, it's not the 'greatest' anime ever made, but it sure ranks high up there. I mean, for example you have romance, you have betrayal, you have... well, everything in it.
That's but one example of a good anime. Then you have Monster for your dramatic anime, you also have Grave of the Fireflies, you have Jin Roh, you have Kite, you have Mononoke Hime... That's dramatic and some of the best movies-- animated to come from the land of Japan IMO. For comedy you have FLCL, Magical Shopping Arcade Abenobashi, Excel Saga, Puni Puni Poemi, Azumanga Daioh, etc, etc, etc.
In short what I am trying to say to you is simply this. To make claim that an anime is the best EVA!!! loloollllooooll without any support to as why you think that makes you look like a putz and makes me not want to watch that anime. Simple as that. So, back up what you have with facts. IE, lead, follow or get the hell out of the way.
Kisho
11-05-2004, 07:12 PM
Exactly my point. Eva isn't the best. But it's damn better than Gundam.
Vandire
11-05-2004, 07:16 PM
There are valid arguments for why Gundam is better than Eva. The political climate is deeper than the political climate in Eva, and depending on personal preference, the fight scenes and mecha styles can also be considered better. It all depends on what your looking for.
(though what i, personally, am looking for is in depth psychology and 3d characters, so my opinion is still that Eva = amazing, and much better than Gundam:D )
Xian Pu
11-05-2004, 07:22 PM
Eva does not lack for political tension. I mean SEELE? Also, Gendo kept Nerv on the downlow to avoid unwanted attention from the outside world. Also, while I agree with you that Eva did not have an extremely deep political pool; the psychological one more than makes up for it. The things these children had to endure just to become pilots. I mean, if you think about it, it is pretty much said that in order to even pilot an Eva your mother has to be dead. Think about it. Shinji- where was Yui? Asuka; where was her mother? Rei? What was she? Toji, etc, etc etc. So, the mental toll on being a pilot kinda took away from the need for political tension. Also, does anyone remember the Jet Alone project? Yeah, that one smoked with politics.
Then you have the religious aspects of Eva. No other anime that I've seen has delved as deeply into religious fact and mythology. None. Not even Hellsing. To be honest? I didn't even know what the Lance of Longinus was before I watched that show. I didn't know what the Tree of Sephiroth was either.
Also, the artwork in Eva is more updated than some of the Gundam animes I've seen. It is more crisp and the colors don't seem to wash as badly as does some of the early episodes of Gundam.
Vandire
11-05-2004, 07:38 PM
Seele is a major political concept.. the whole one organisation dominating the world. But thats really it. Nerv on a downlow was just Seeles PR and Gendou trying to avoid attention so he could get on with his own plans more easily.
The problem is that there are pretty much no opposing political forces except G. Ikari Vs Seele, and that doesnt show till the end. (I really did expect there to be at least one anti-nerv terrorist group..)
Jet alone was just a company trying to make money, the way i see it. Nerv = huge, huge resources- if the company could make Nerv useless, and become more popular with people, they could get a lot of that money. The political aspect of that was just standard advertisement for a huge self centred company.
Dont get me wrong, though... I do appreciate there is a larger political element in Evangelion than most Animes, but in Gundam it is deeper in that respect. No one had any idea what was really going on till near the end in Gundam Wing (as bet i remember it... it *has* been a while since i last saw any) and i did find myself much more impressed with that aspect. Everything is for politics. With Eva, politics is just something the commanders and seele worry about, and ordinary people are just forced to abide by.
On the matter of religious aspects and how much it teaches you about mythology etc in general i agree with you completely. I never meant to sound like i was suggesting that was not the case.
But yeah. Psychology in eva is amazing, and far outweighs the politcal scene anyway, i was merely trying to say some people dont much care for in depth psychology and would prefer politics/different styles of battle. (lets face it, if battle and politics is what your after, all the scenes such as "i dont want to die" will get a tiny, tiny bit repetitive and boring if your taking them at face value by the end, seeing how they comrpise most of the show.)
Xian Pu
11-05-2004, 07:45 PM
Seele is a major political concept.. the whole one organisation dominating the world. But thats really it. Nerv on a downlow was just Seeles PR and Gendou trying to avoid attention so he could get on with his own plans more easily.
The problem is that there are pretty much no opposing political forces except G. Ikari Vs Seele, and that doesnt show till the end. (I really did expect there to be at least one anti-nerv terrorist group..)
Jet alone was just a company trying to make money, the way i see it. Nerv = huge, huge resources- if the company could make Nerv useless, and become more popular with people, they could get a lot of that money. The political aspect of that was just standard advertisement for a huge self centred company.
Dont get me wrong, though... I do appreciate there is a larger political element in Evangelion than most Animes, but in Gundam it is deeper in that respect. No one had any idea what was really going on till near the end in Gundam Wing (as bet i remember it... it *has* been a while since i last saw any) and i did find myself much more impressed with that aspect. Everything is for politics. With Eva, politics is just something the commanders and seele worry about, and ordinary people are just forced to abide by.
On the matter of religious aspects and how much it teaches you about mythology etc in general i agree with you completely. I never meant to sound like i was suggesting that was not the case.
But yeah. Psychology in eva is amazing, and far outweighs the politcal scene anyway, i was merely trying to say some people dont much care for in depth psychology and would prefer politics/different styles of battle. (lets face it, if battle and politics is what your after, all the scenes such as "i dont want to die" will get a tiny, tiny bit repetitive and boring if your taking them at face value by the end, seeing how they comrpise most of the show.)
I'm glad we agree on this. ^_^
Also, was anyone else unnerved by the three minute ride of silence between Asuka and Rei? I wanted someone to say something! But alas, they did not. Sorry, but my all time personal favorite line in ANY anime is when Asuka is at the bottom of the lake. 'I don't want to die, I don't want to die, I don't want to die... Mamma's watching me!' *cry* That chokes me up just thinking about it.
so how did Gundam survive for 25 years in the making then. In few anime conventions i went to (not in the UK), the Gundam stands are packed out with people.
Vandire
11-06-2004, 12:25 PM
Just because its profitable doesnt mean its good. The tweenies are probably pretty profitable- no one would say it was deep or the best show ever etc etc because of that.
As Kisho said, a good series ends. Gundam is just proof that to some, making money is more important than making a good (and concise) show.
cheng_cia321
11-06-2004, 07:22 PM
Gundam rules! Especially gundam endless waltz.
Kisho
11-06-2004, 08:13 PM
I agree Endless Waltz is quite a good anime movie... But, it can't imagine to standing up to Evangelion.
Oh and to your whole "Gundam is still going" Well it's because some companies like to run a show dry. Evangelion is good because it ended and they didn't need to run it dry and try and get fans. They got enough fans from running a 20 soemthing episode series.. Get It? Thats why a good series ends.
VIPER
11-06-2004, 08:29 PM
yea your right Evangelion is great
Zanna
11-06-2004, 11:58 PM
I've watched both animes (plenty of gundam ones) and while both have thier good sides i just couldn't choose a favourite out of the 2. Gundam has the big battles while Eva was more imaginative in the story it's just personal taste over which you say is better at the end of the day.
Anime_Mystic
11-07-2004, 12:04 AM
but i persionally like gundam..more fighting..thats well...interisting :D
Jo-chan
11-07-2004, 12:25 AM
I like both. I like the storyline and characters better in Evangelion though... wait... that means I like Evangelion better......?
DrkFire
11-08-2004, 06:25 PM
haha hmm i wounder which one you like lol
kira yamato89
11-08-2004, 06:27 PM
gundam hands down
full_metal_alchemist
11-08-2004, 06:33 PM
i agree gundam all the way
Shinigami Ichigo
11-08-2004, 06:39 PM
Gundam no question, hands down.
Kisho
11-09-2004, 05:27 PM
How about explaining why you like gundam more? I mean please do back us up with your fanboy reasons.
shukumei
11-09-2004, 05:35 PM
Evangelion is Better:D
Shinigami Ichigo
11-09-2004, 05:38 PM
Glad to provide my reasons. Mind you, they are my personal reasons and opinons :D
The animation is better overall. The mechas look MUCH better. The battles are more intense. The characters are more interesting and varied. The "villains" are much more apparent and less nebulous. It is a little more over the-top. And finally, I have not seen all of Evangelion, so I can only go by what I saw, which was like 2 episodes. :p
Gjallarhorn
11-09-2004, 05:40 PM
unless ur talking about the original Gundam, then Evangelion is better.
Washiko
11-09-2004, 06:08 PM
Wow... heated topic
First let me say that not everyone has to back up their opinion... if they feel the need to, that's great, but the question is simply which one do you like better... not which one and why.
They both appeal to a different set of people. Personally, I like them both equally. Gundam and Eva are two of the most successful mecha Anime EVER, and both fan bases are very large.
Eva does, of course, have the comedic advantage that I found lacking in Gundam. Gundam, to my knowledge, has never introduced a penguin as a major character. Also, many of the topics of coming of age that seem pushed to the side in Gundam make their appearance in Eva. Ie. Shinji feels upset that Rei gets along better with his father than he does. While the characters in Gundam are more diverse, their thoughts and emotions are left more up to the imagination than Eva... especially in Gundam Wing. There are so many different versions of Wing characters found in Fics that it's sometimes hard to remember how the characters actually act in the anime.
Gundam, on the other hand, does have more intense battle scenes. And a more tense political situation. I find it a bit more intellectual than Eva. Very little is as it appears, despite the fact that both sides of the conflicts are given screen time. This is because most characters do not fully express their feelings. Thus, for example, GW's Episode Zero.
As per the thought about whether or not to continue the series beyond a first season, Eva probably could have done what Gundam has and continued their series, just as Gundam could have stopped after the first time. But what marks Gundam's success is that it can and has been re-marketable. The mark of a good series is often in whether it can have a successful sequel. And Gundam has MANY of those. And not all of the fans are ten years old. Nor are they all original fans. Each generation of Gundam has its own new fanbase, which frequently will go back to the original for insight. Eva never tried, so it is impossible to use that particular component to compare the two.
All in all, they're two very different, and very popular, anime.
Shinigami Ichigo
11-09-2004, 06:12 PM
That was beautiful man. That was what I was trying to say, but I cannot speak so eloquently most times. Bravo. :)
VIPER
11-09-2004, 06:13 PM
Evangelion is great
Shinigami Ichigo
11-09-2004, 06:16 PM
Since I have not seen the entire series, and I heard the ending was kinda lacking, is Evangelion recommended over alot of other series? I am very curious to see what makes it so good to so many people.
Metal_Knuckles
11-09-2004, 06:17 PM
yeah what is so good about it??
Vandire
11-09-2004, 06:19 PM
Evangelion requires you to think, offering you the opportunity to think for yourself, and make your own answers to questions that are not just about the storyline, but apply to real life as well. Thats why Evangelion is great :)
Shinigami Ichigo
11-09-2004, 06:21 PM
Sounds... confusing. My extremely American mindset doesn't like to think too often. I think I will have to investigate more to decide if I want to aquire a version of this series for myself.
Washiko
11-09-2004, 06:22 PM
It's one of the few that you're likely to find in a video rental. If you can find the first few, I recommend renting them. You can always stop after the first episode if you don't like it.
And I never give spoilers... so why not just watch it and find out what's so good!?
Note: I am the mod here... so you can guess that I like most mech anime... lol
Shinigami Ichigo
11-09-2004, 06:23 PM
Could have guessed that. I think I will get it if I see it available. thanks for the help sir.
Vandire
11-09-2004, 06:24 PM
Sounds... confusing. My extremely American mindset doesn't like to think too often.
..you are kidding, right...?
either way. The storylines not too bad even if you dont think about it too much.. the ends just a bit confusing >.<
And as Washiko said, renting is (almost) always a possibility if your not sure :D
Washiko
11-09-2004, 06:25 PM
LOL... ::Washiko is female:: but don't call me Ma'am... that would make me feel like a mother duck...
Shinigami Ichigo
11-09-2004, 06:30 PM
Was just trying to be funny :p BTW, I was kidding about not thinking too much. I just dont like anime that is TOO confusing *cough* Serial Experiments Lain *cough*
Vandire
11-09-2004, 06:32 PM
Was just trying to be funny :p BTW, I was kidding about not thinking too much. I just dont like anime that is TOO confusing *cough* Serial Experiments Lain *cough*
Thas relieving to know :D It just bugs me when people dont think, is all... I really cant see much point to existance without thought. But hey, thats not the case :D
Shinigami Ichigo
11-09-2004, 06:37 PM
There is no point in living if you don't think for yourself. That is why everyone has so many different opinions about things. Unfortunately, in America there are not enough people who DO think for themselves. case in point: George W. Bush winning an election AND re-election. Americans over 18 be perpared to be drafted :(
DrkFire
11-09-2004, 06:39 PM
yea thats how i first saw it i rented it at i loved it
Vandire
11-09-2004, 06:39 PM
Id make al arge post agreeing with you etc on this point, except it would be going off topic a bit too much. So instead i'll say Yay Eva! Yay Gundam! but more importantly, Yay Eva! :D
Shinigami Ichigo
11-09-2004, 06:40 PM
I am only hesitant coz about a year ago CN had a giant robot week and showed one ep of Eva. I didn't like it very much, mostly coz I was put off by the mecha design. I am always up for second chances. :)
DrkFire
11-09-2004, 06:44 PM
what you trying to say then?
Shinigami Ichigo
11-09-2004, 06:47 PM
Hmm... I think I am trying to say I am an aesthetics driven person in what I watch, and since Gundam's mecha design is better in my opinion, I prefer Gundam over Eva. I think...
DrkFire
11-09-2004, 06:51 PM
understandable in your opinion i guess but i liked Gundams mech design better but i still like EVA's style
Shinigami Ichigo
11-09-2004, 06:57 PM
It is a similar system to determine a favorite character in a given anime. It usually corresponds with who looks coolest/best. Also why it usually ends up being a female :p One reason I think Eva loses to Gundam. Gundam does not have as many females (from what I understand about Eva) and when there are, they are extremely minor characters.
kira yamato89
11-09-2004, 09:48 PM
hmm.....................i would have to say gundam even though it is true that they both have fimiliar systems gundam would be my 1st choice
MonsterHuntzors
11-10-2004, 08:58 AM
i like the eva mech design, only cuz they randomly (conveniently) go insane and destroy things. But only one thing bugs me.......how do they fix the city from total destruction in every episode.
Knightmare686
11-10-2004, 09:37 AM
me personaly i choose gundam. i grown up with then since i was a child. i always watched them when i could.
Prince_of_Bryan
11-10-2004, 10:48 AM
so for the interuption but was that a rasist comment
Maybe it was maybe it was not :badrazz: :badrazz: :badrazz:
Prince_of_Bryan
11-10-2004, 10:57 AM
Was that a rases commenth :(
dragona
11-10-2004, 10:58 AM
gundam is good
WHFBeavis
11-10-2004, 11:27 AM
watching it in Japanese is a whole better than the American one you know? Evangelion has a larger plot point than most of the Gundam series but the enemies on Evangelion are much worst than most ZAFT or Other G Units you know? but if you have any questions please send me a message:computer:
Vandire
11-10-2004, 01:38 PM
Don't play with GOD like that you stupid dork!!!!!!!!!!!! :mad:
Unexplained, and unjustified insults just make you look stupid, not me. Silly boy.:p If you have a valid point, then make it. Until you do, however...
Shinigami Ichigo
11-10-2004, 02:00 PM
Maybe someone can answer a question for me: why is the Japanese version of almost everything better than the American dub? There are exceptions, in my mind, such as Trigun, Cowboy Bebop and MSG.
Metal_Knuckles
11-10-2004, 02:28 PM
because the US versions are made in the US and japanese ones are from the country who made it!! as in the original!
Shinigami Ichigo
11-10-2004, 02:31 PM
I see. That makes sense I suppose.
Metal_Knuckles
11-10-2004, 02:33 PM
hey which is better dude out of the choices??
Shinigami Ichigo
11-10-2004, 02:43 PM
personally I say Gundam. If you mean American vs. Japanese, it depends. Sometimes I am not in the mood to read subtitles, but if the voices for American are just god-awful, then I have no choice. Ideally tho, I prefer Japanese dialog with English subs.
Metal_Knuckles
11-10-2004, 02:44 PM
yeah i here you there dude!!:)
Shinigami Ichigo
11-10-2004, 02:55 PM
The problem comes when an anime is licensed, and fansubbing groups are forced to stop. It is a real drag.
One other question, which American dub is better: Eva or any Gundam?
Vandire
11-10-2004, 07:35 PM
It's hard to say... Eva lost a lot in the translation process, some words were done slightly wrong, and the voice actor for Shinji (spike Spencer) was terrible...(compared to the original) Serious overdramatisation. But then, personally i think the voices for Rei and Asuka were actually slightly better in the dub, but not by much.
Gundam probably didnt have so much go wrong with the dubbing process, but that doesnt neccessarily mean it is better, simply that not so much was lost from the original.
(Which kinda makes the gap between Eva and Gundam bigger- Eva had problems due to silly companies and the end result in english was still better than the end result of Gundam, whilst Gundam went relatively smoothly and is still not as good.)
Metal_Knuckles
11-10-2004, 07:42 PM
i like gundam!!
Shinigami Ichigo
11-10-2004, 08:34 PM
Ditto, too bad SEED's dub is among the worst I have ever heard.
Metal_Knuckles
11-10-2004, 08:36 PM
yeah it is preety bad!!
DrkFire
11-10-2004, 09:24 PM
Ditto, too bad SEED's dub is among the worst I have ever heard.
dang that sucks because i wanted to get SEED because i heard it was good
Shinigami Ichigo
11-10-2004, 09:58 PM
If you can track it down on the net, it is very good. But the dub is just too awful for words.
DrkFire
11-10-2004, 10:08 PM
aww man i will not put you through that shame of saying them
Shinigami Ichigo
11-10-2004, 10:09 PM
saying what?
DrkFire
11-10-2004, 10:09 PM
how awfull it is
Shinigami Ichigo
11-10-2004, 10:12 PM
I am not ashamed to say that the english dub for gundam seed is one of the 5 worst I have personally ever heard. If Eva even has a REMOTELY respectable dub, then it outshines it by the whole light spectrum. :D
DrkFire
11-10-2004, 10:13 PM
dude it was a joke
Shinigami Ichigo
11-10-2004, 10:14 PM
Oh. Well, not you know just how bad I think it is. :p
DrkFire
11-10-2004, 10:15 PM
i do in deed
Shinigami Ichigo
11-10-2004, 10:16 PM
So on a scale of 1 to 10 how good is the Eva dub?
DrkFire
11-11-2004, 12:02 AM
well if the one from Hollywood video is dubed then i would say..."dont know because that the only version i have seen
inuyasha-sakura
11-11-2004, 01:39 AM
Evas good but nothing can beat GUNDAM!!! *_*
Shinigami Ichigo
11-11-2004, 02:41 AM
True true.
kira yamato89
11-11-2004, 09:59 AM
yeah
Jo-chan
11-21-2004, 06:22 PM
Glad to provide my reasons. Mind you, they are my personal reasons and opinons :D
The animation is better overall. The mechas look MUCH better. The battles are more intense. The characters are more interesting and varied. The "villains" are much more apparent and less nebulous. It is a little more over the-top. And finally, I have not seen all of Evangelion, so I can only go by what I saw, which was like 2 episodes. :p
First off, I want to let you know, no offense to you and I respect your opinion, but don't you think its kind of like burning the bridge before you cross it when you say you like gundam better even though you haven't seen all of Evangelion? But like I said, no offense and I respect your opinion.
Die Tod von Euch
11-21-2004, 07:10 PM
Alright, I'm not gonna go through all 6 pages, so if I repeat something someone already said, my apologies...
First, I just want to say something that bugged me after only reading the first page... EVAS ARE NOT MECHA. They are LIVING THINGS. They are bio-mechanical, yes, but not really mecha. Mecha are just machines. Evas are living creatures with souls....
Anyway... I liked Eva over any of the Gundam series that I've seen. While I did enjoy some of the different Gundam shows, for various reasons, I still like how Eva's characters were depicted much better. It was because of the characters and the psychological aspects that has me choosing Eva.
kiterocks
11-21-2004, 07:20 PM
i choose eva it has a better plot
Leafninsakura
11-21-2004, 08:43 PM
eva! although my boyfriend is a diehard gundam fanboy
KagomeAsakura
11-21-2004, 10:27 PM
I like Gundam all my pals like it
swordsman
11-21-2004, 11:04 PM
Evangelion
Princess Ai
11-22-2004, 03:34 AM
Evangelion all the way homies!
SelfStudyBuddy
11-24-2004, 07:37 PM
i love gundam but EVA is totally superior in all ways conceivable! http://animegalleries.net/bbs/images/smilies/in_awe.gif
wing 7
11-27-2004, 10:18 PM
gundam is the greatest mecha anime ever exs[pecially gundam wing.
enigma unit 01
01-27-2005, 11:22 AM
Did Von Gouch, or whatever you are, evangfelions are mechas, 'mecha' dosnt mean machine it means a huge humaniod, it even says 'mecha design' in the credits!
kira yamato89
02-02-2005, 09:39 PM
all right you ppl who like evangelion are delusional, Gundam beats evangelion in all ways just like the xbox beats everything in all ways, so for you ppl who like evangelion are not "superior in all ways conceivable" gundam is
Missy
02-02-2005, 11:56 PM
I choose Gundam over Evangelion... and um "Xbox beats everything in all ways" ?? then why does it break so easily and has lower console-sale prices than PS2?... *shrugs*.. oh well.. ^.^
R384149
02-03-2005, 12:07 AM
all right you ppl who like evangelion are delusional, Gundam beats evangelion in all ways just like the xbox beats everything in all ways, so for you ppl who like evangelion are not "superior in all ways conceivable" gundam isI agree that Gundam is better by far then eva but genesis is still better than Xbox,its cheap,its fun and its has like no load times,Genesis Forever!:laugh:
enjio
02-03-2005, 10:16 AM
i would have to say gundam because of the graphics
Isunamaru
02-03-2005, 10:35 AM
Gundam, its got Wing Zero and political intrigue!
macus alexander bogart
02-03-2005, 11:45 AM
gundam specificly g wing but id like to see what gundam seed is like
Missy
02-03-2005, 01:06 PM
i liked Gundam Wing. But i still wanna see more of Evangelion when I have the chance..
MistaCloudStrife
02-03-2005, 01:09 PM
Isnt Evangelion based off of the bible or something??
Missy
02-03-2005, 01:21 PM
it is??? wait.. i think i heard that somewhere before.... XP
MistaCloudStrife
02-03-2005, 01:28 PM
Yeah... i only saw the beginning... then i saw End of Eva.... so I thought it was really wierd... o.O
Saiyuko
02-03-2005, 07:05 PM
I personally like Gundam,but I really want to see Evangelion though.
Tsuna Kadiri
02-03-2005, 07:20 PM
I've never seen Evangelion, so I'll go with Gundam!! I like Gundam alot, so I'm not just going with that out of default. I probably would of chosen Gundam anyways....:)
Hajime
02-04-2005, 12:34 AM
Evangelion was just to crazy watch so I say Gundam
kira yamato89
02-04-2005, 01:19 AM
It really doesnt matter cause is the best
SetoKaiba
02-14-2005, 01:04 AM
I definately have to say Gundam, powerful suits without short batteries, and there is a lot more to it than just the pilots themselves
enigma unit 01
02-19-2005, 03:32 PM
What are you on about, evangelion isnt just about the pilots, sure it has a lot of psychological stuff in it, but there is a storyline behind the mechas as well.
dmgmaster1990
02-20-2005, 12:22 AM
all hale gundam
/Aifa|
02-20-2005, 03:12 AM
The Eva series can burn in hell!!! I cant believe i got hooked on the anime only to be disappointed by the stupid endings. Wasted 10 dvds worth of cash. ><
Predator
02-20-2005, 11:53 AM
Im gonna have to say Gundam...
Larry
03-02-2005, 11:22 AM
i've never seen it b4 is it good?
enigma unit 01
03-09-2005, 10:09 AM
I watched the evangelion series again, its soo cool
darkmaster
03-09-2005, 10:41 AM
both eva and gundam are both very good series they both also have things in common hmmm i cant decide so i say........i choose both.
xCalypsox
03-18-2005, 06:55 PM
Evangelion is the shiz!!
Unrighteousvoid
03-21-2005, 02:53 PM
EVA is much better
RoseBridePrince
03-24-2005, 07:57 AM
evagelion is easily the best anime series ever. Gundamn is mind numbing war stories over and over even trickles over to the next series. Character gets gundam, character loses gundamn, char gets new gundamn, rinse and repeat for 40 eps. Evangelion didnt introduce too much at one time, steadily moving the story along while developing the complex characters smoothy. Single best anime ending ever, a real ending to a real anime, gundamn doesnt even compare, altho wing was a good watch.
kamekazekid
03-24-2005, 10:03 AM
i prefer gundam since it doesnt have cry baby shinji
Isunamaru
03-24-2005, 10:08 AM
evagelion is easily the best anime series ever. Gundamn is mind numbing war stories over and over even trickles over to the next series. Character gets gundam, character loses gundamn, char gets new gundamn, rinse and repeat for 40 eps. Evangelion didnt introduce too much at one time, steadily moving the story along while developing the complex characters smoothy. Single best anime ending ever, a real ending to a real anime, gundamn doesnt even compare, altho wing was a good watch.best anime series ever???....even tho Eva is good there are many that are much better such as -
Trigun
Naruto
Hellsing
and many others....
RoseBridePrince
03-24-2005, 01:07 PM
Ok, you might not think eva is best and you are intitled to your opinion, but i must say Trigun, Naruto, and HELLSING? Triguns story isnt as deep, art isnt as good(nowhere close), interesting story arc tho. Naruto I can't judge entirely, only watched about 40 eps, altho I say it's a refreshing anime, the story is reminicent of DBZ with a lil humor thrown into the mix. Hellsing was hands down the worst anime I have ever seen, lacking any kind of decent character development, which it didnt even do becuase the characters where so bland and boring to begin with. Im not ragging on these series, personally I think eva does not gets the praise it should, it's often overlooked by subpar series when it's undoubtably an instant classic.
Gandalf the White
03-24-2005, 01:18 PM
Gundam all the way!!!
m1abrams
03-24-2005, 01:26 PM
IMO both series are good, both have there pros and cons. Here I shall list some of them below.
Evangelion:
Pros: Kick *** Bio mechanical robots with huge guns and some nasty moves. Plus they just look so cool, and you have got to love EVA-01's Desert Eagle...I mean come on, that is just the coolest weapon ever.
Cons: Main character is a little unstable, though he has his brave moments he can make some serious mistakes.
Gundam:
Pros: 60 foot tall, 50 ton killing machines running around with fully automatic tank cannons...whats not to like. Plus Gundam has the all mighty Zaku (Wich makes a reappearance in Gundam Seed Destiny as the Zaku Worrier, very nice)
Cons: First series had horrid Animation quality (Some of it wasnt that bad though), G Gundam and SD Gundam even exsist.
Pakcik Ali
03-25-2005, 02:54 AM
*joins the fray...
After a lot of thinking... here mine:
Both has complex storyline and subplots, traits that a few anime has it.... both are mecha action (technically EVA is not a mecha just a gigantic humanoid like biological robot) with a touch of the human emotion and psychology... Gundam theme is more on the war itself and how it affects the characters inside the story in many different perceptive while Evangelion more to the End of the World theme with a bit religious reference.... both are cool in the many ways.... I choose both
'nough said...
blackrosetwilight
03-25-2005, 04:54 PM
Both series are great but they both have their flaws. Lets start of with the main characters who ..... well are ALL FREAKIN CRY BABY'S we need new main characters who cry less waaaaay less by my standards anybody agree. But both shows are good so i say GO EVANGELION, GO GUNDAM !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Blitz
03-25-2005, 09:29 PM
Oh geez, why choose those two?! Well, i have to agree with blackrosetwilight that both of the main characters are cry babies. Evangelion has awsome mecha and the plot rocks. Same goes for almost every series of gundam(Why SD and G Gundam exist is beyond me) that they have awsome plots. The gouf is the best ms, and if you giveme one Im bound to kick some butt! Eva-01 and 02 are awsome, though I like 02 because Soryu Langley Asuka pilots it. Can't choose between the two, They've all got their pro's and con's!
Sword
03-26-2005, 06:16 AM
The Eva series can burn in hell!!! I cant believe i got hooked on the anime only to be disappointed by the stupid endings. Wasted 10 dvds worth of cash. ><
Shut the hell up! Eva is all greatness. And I like the endings.
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